How not to win friends and really piss people off before you even meet them ....

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6 years 3 months ago - 6 years 3 months ago #538655 by iSor
...time to get the guns out me thinks.

and if such neighbours don’t hear your concerns, you have every right to give any dog wandering onto your property a warning shot between the eyes because, more often than not, they ( dog and owner) have not been socialised properly and are very likely to be a menace to stock in the country.
You could even say you mistook it (the dog) for an intruder in the doorway and acted in self defence.
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6 years 3 months ago #538656 by Ruth

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6 years 3 months ago #538657 by iSor
Oh dear, that doesn’t read very well does it?
Ok, to clarify, the intruder gets a warning with a baseball bat and the unsocialised, wandering dog only gets one warning, with whatever, to stay within the law.

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6 years 3 months ago #538660 by max2
Feedback from their former (small community area) was they were known for letting their dog do what it liked and where...... so it should be of no surprise to them here that a wandering dog/s are considered a problem and threat.

And this is where I think our society has got to now. We know when we create problems, we still do know right from wrong, but why are ''we'' making excuses for these things to be considered normal or acceptable?

I'm curious if its just a certain age bracket of people who have this sense of entitlement, or what other shared influences exist? I think in our case anyhow, the general age of these bods would be in the early 40's to early 50's bracket.

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6 years 2 months ago #538662 by Ruth
It could be complicatedly, deeply individual. Perhaps it is "I was treated badly, outside the rules as a child, therefore I won't obey rules now". That was the story for many people, so there's wide-spread disgruntlement in the community. You can't fix that. Hopefully parents/society are better now - except that the disgruntled are also parents and probably handing on their own mistreatment (we know that's a continued cycle) to their kids so we'll never get out of it until there's a societal shift in dealing with the care of children and young people.

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6 years 2 months ago #538664 by max2
True, I see the attitude coming down through the children with the roaming dog...

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6 years 2 months ago #538670 by iSor
That’s is indeed the problem, children turning feral ,like the wandering dogs, because the parents can’t be bothered/have no idea about bringing them up to be respectful of other people in society.

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6 years 2 months ago #538671 by Ruth
Ah, but where did it start? I don't think it's as simple as "can't be bothered". I live in a community of dysfunction, brought about by socio-economic deprivation, colonisation, resultant poor health outcomes. Add a dollop of sexual abuse to any other sort of abuses present and all hell breaks loose.

Not that that's likely the reason for an inconsiderate wanker with a generator 16 hours a day.

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6 years 2 months ago #538672 by stentor
Getting back to practical mitigation measures, if it were me I would front and offer to build them a generator shed for free

Ply and 100x50 framing would set you back around

(5x sheets 12mm ply plus 25m 100x50 roughly equals $400 plus hinges and a padbolt, add another $150 for a bale of batts that you could staple to the inside so all up roughly $600 ish - tell them it is a loaner until they get something silent if you want but at the end of the day $600 ish and a day's labour is a small price to pay compared to changing their minds)


Or

I would get a decent MP3 player and headphones and go about my daily tasks listening to podcasts


Other alternatives such as threatening to shoot them are also effective but tend to be very short term and end up involving the police or the local mob..

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6 years 2 months ago #538673 by Ruth
You obviously missed the socio-economic deprivation point! It's not just a "them" issue. Perhaps you could all buy a lot of homoeopathic pet supplies and they can afford their own generator muffling or even the silent solar power!

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6 years 2 months ago #538680 by stentor
I think that 600 or so is not a lot of money considering that many people here are sitting on assets worth over a mill?

At work we try not to blame any one party for what is wrong (even when it is patently obvious) but just get it right as that ends up working better in the long run

Did you want suggestions or just to vent?

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6 years 2 months ago #538681 by iSor
Yes, but this is a good community in which one can vent their spleen as other members are generally polite and supportive in their replies.

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6 years 2 months ago - 6 years 2 months ago #538682 by Kilmoon

I think that 600 or so is not a lot of money considering that many people here are sitting on assets worth over a mill?


Okay, which of you buggers has the rest of mine???!!! I'm starting to feel deprived, maybe I should act up?:whistle:

But yeah Ruth, I know exactly what you mean as I grew up in Whangarei and the dysfunction there was due to a multitude of factors (head to the other end of the country and gee whiz, same issues). But, growing up in a large family in a small house (god forbid, as nowadays that would be regarded as serious over-crowding!) we learnt to tolerate others impacting on us. To the point that we (when us siblings can be bothered to chat together - just because we grew up together doesn't mean we actually like each other) now all have difficulty standing up for ourselves. We were trained to be doormats for the sake of politeness and peace in the house. When we do stand up for ourselves we collectively find people regard us as bullying....probably because they get so used to us "just going along for the sake of peace" that when we finally go "eff it, no more" people get shocked. (One of my sisters is going through this exact thing in her workplace, she has finally said "no more" and because she won't roll over like she has in past, but instead is saying "no" firmly is being regarded as the problem, not the other employee who has a history of causing issues.)

So what to do in this case? No idea, some people just don't give a shit as they a wrapped up in their own little worlds to the exclusion of all else. You could try talking and saying "no, that's enough" but whether they will listen or not, and then actually do something, is unknown. The other side of the coin is just to put up with their impact. All you can do in this case is talk and hope that it's an outcome that is beneficial to you. Ohh, and buy some white noise ear plugs.
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6 years 2 months ago #538684 by Ruth

stentor wrote: I think that 600 or so is not a lot of money considering that many people here are sitting on assets worth over a mill?

At work we try not to blame any one party for what is wrong (even when it is patently obvious) but just get it right as that ends up working better in the long run

Did you want suggestions or just to vent?

Primarily just venting, thanks. We'd already thought of that answer ourselves, since it might work - except on principle I'd gag at having to pay for their mitigation. Living on "a mill" doesn't mean you're necessarily pulling a big income off it. We're not dairy farmers!

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