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11 years 4 months ago #33636 by scottie
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Hi everyone,
I have just taken ownership of my first dairy goats, two in-milk Toggenburgs. They endured a trip across Cook Straight on Tuesday, and I have been milking them night and morning since they arrived. I plan to milk them once a day, which is what they are used to, but am trying to practice my milking technique and keep their udders manageable (being a newbie to goat milking).
I have noted what everyone says about chilling the milk quickly, and have tried to do this (though I haven't tried a slicker pad in the bucket yet.)
I tried some of the chilled milk and although there was no after taste, the first mouthful still curled up the sides of my tongue! I really want the dairy goat thing to work as I find managing them and milking them so much more enjoyable than milking a cow, but I need to get to grips with the taste thing...any suggestions? Where do I buy a cobalt lick? I got an ordinary small salt lick from Farmlands but I'm assuming this is not specifically cobalt.
Any suggestions and advice greatly appreciated.

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11 years 4 months ago #445826 by Andrea1
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Congrats on the goats, especially the Toggies!!! :D

You can put yeast over their feed each day, 1 dessert teaspoon per day, and see if that helps after a while. However, there may be something more than that wrong if the milk tastes that strong, because it really shouldn't have a strong taste.

Fresh milk, right out of the goat, is quite lovely, sweet and light-tasting. I milk Toggs as well, and their milk is very mild.

What kind of milk are you used to drinking?

What sort of stuff are they grazing on?

As for minerals, they really do need a GOAT lick. I use Aakland Chemical's Wonderlick for Goats, and Essential Nutrition (based in Ashburton) does a goat lick as well. I'm afraid I don't know of outlets for GOAT licks in the North Island, but I'm sure both Aakland and Eessential Nutrition will freight, and a 25 kg bag should last you a 6-12 months with just 2 goats.

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11 years 4 months ago #445840 by 3scoremiles10
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Scottie, when I first got my two Togg girls (from Andrea) their milk tasted off for maybe a week. I think it was the stress of the move. Make sure they are getting enough minerals - I give mine free choice of seaweed meal and the goat lick Andrea mentioned, as well as supplemental copper and cobalt as we are in a deficient area. Copper you can find in the equine section of CRT, and cobalt you can order through them. I also give mine Agrisea in their water.

I wouldn't be worried at this stage about the taste of the milk - give them time to settle in :) Offer them some vegemite - the B vitamins will give them a boost. Also try mixing some magnesium oxide or dolomite in with their feed.

Good luck!

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11 years 4 months ago #445845 by Andrea1
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Just be really careful supplementing copper. You can poison them with it, so unless you really know what you're dealing with, it's best not to supplement apart from the loose mineral lick for goats and the seaweed meal.

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11 years 4 months ago #445919 by scottie
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Thanks guys, I will try some of those suggestions. The salt lick I bought from Farmlands was a solid block, but it sounds like you are talking about loose salt, is that right?
We are used to drinking raw cow's milk, jersey and dexter.
I will taste the milk again in a day or so and see what it's like. They are grazing pasture and i've fed them silver beet, willow and a mix of lucerne chaff, maize/barley/molasses.

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11 years 4 months ago #446004 by goatmama
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Hi Scottie,
We have saanen goats that we milk at the moment also milking Meg- fresian jersey cross. Must say the cows milk wins for my husband and I hands down. One of the boys is dairy intolerant and milks the goat for the 3 of them. I just don't like the goatie after taste and she is only in her first lactation.

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11 years 4 months ago #446020 by eelcat
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We prefer goats milk. We have jerseys as well, but our goats milk has no goat taste, whether from a first milker or one of our really old does. Our farm tour guests this afternoon tried it (from one of our older does) and were hooked.

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11 years 4 months ago #446037 by scottie
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Well the taste is improving so I think it must have been partly the stress of the move. It is still not what I would call 'sweet'. It has quite a nutty flavour. I tried to make yoghurt with it last night using the method that I use for cows milk but this morning it is still not set. Any suggestions?
Thanks

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11 years 4 months ago #446038 by Andrea1
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Goat milk will never set up the way cow milk does for yoghurt. You can try a bulgaricus culture, and that should help a bit, but it will always be looser than cow milk yoghurt.

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11 years 4 months ago #446057 by Toggie
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If you are interested in showing your new girls, there is a dairy goat show at the Dannevirke A&P show Saturday 2 Feb 13. Its low key, lots of fun and we accept goats registered with Premier and the NZDGBA.

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11 years 4 months ago #446066 by sj413
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You could also try straining your yogurt to make it thicker. We use paper coffee filters in a funnel, but it ought to work with fine-weave muslin. The end result is a smaller amount of thick, Greek-style yogurt.

You're probably already doing this, but filtering the milk before chilling helps to reduce the chance of a strong flavor caused by unwanted bacteria.

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11 years 4 months ago #446101 by LongRidge
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The goats milk that I have tried from a stress-free and weedless goat was very similar to bought full-cream cow milk.
One of the proteins in cows milk is casein. This coagulates when it gets into acid conditions, such as being made into cheese, yoghurt and junket. Goats milk has very little or no casein, thus when making cheese and yoghurt it theoretically will not get as thick as cows milk will.
Also, goats milk has more fat than cows milk, but because the composition and globule size are different, it tends to be harder to separate than cows milk (I think).

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11 years 2 months ago #450429 by Atmospheric
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Can anyone enter? How do we enter? I cannot find a schedule for goats online

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