Naughty cat - what would you do?

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14 years 10 months ago #276226 by The Kats Place
get an animal and if it doesn't conform to you way of living just kill it!!! I don't think so.

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14 years 10 months ago #276230 by oskatd
I don't think that is the case here at all TKP, even if the cat in question is particularly vile.

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14 years 10 months ago #276305 by The Kats Place
Is there someone in your area (we have humane alternative) who will take the pussy, socialise it and rehome it to a place that suits it better?

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14 years 10 months ago #276339 by Cinsara

The Kats Place;256816 wrote: get an animal and if it doesn't conform to you way of living just kill it!!! I don't think so.


Absolutely, for heavens sake there are tons of cats out there who are "only cat" pets and every cat in his right mind hates children, the really nice cats put up with them but I would suggest it wouldn't be their preferrance if they were given the choice. It is the way of nature for a male cat to be territorial and a loner so beating up the less dominant cat is pretty usual.

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14 years 10 months ago #276344 by jen
I used some feliway to integrate 2 new kittens to my current batch of 4 older cats. I think it may have helped some. The problem wasn't spraying but serious growling, spitting and stalking and lots of aggression from one cat in particular.

I put the feliway near where the older cats ate, this was at the entrance to the kitchen which is where the kittens would come through to the main part of the house.

I kept the kittens apart for several weeks. Until they were completly relaxed with the 'humans' and their own environment. Then when I had some time I would close the kittens into another room and free up the room with their dirt box and food/beds etc and encourage the other cats to come and investigate, they would growl and hiss getting close to the room, so the smell was as disturbing as anything. They didn't necessarily need to even clap eyes on the new arrivals.

I'd then reassure the old cats when they were getting wound up, giving them treats or feeding them their favourite tinned food in the kittens room and I'd give them plenty of affection and reassurance but I would always take them away before they got too wound up. Gradually they stopped grumlbing about the kittens room, so I started letting them see each other, through windows and doors etc and bringing the older cats in (one at a time) to see the new arrivals.

It took me a long time, but they're all much better off for it I think. The feliway may have helped, I'll never be sure, but I didn't bother with it until the cats were starting to have 'supervised meetings' after they stopped getting wound up at the mere smell of them.

I think if you really want to keep both of them you have to go back to the start and try to be very patient and give them the time they need.

One of mine will never 'like' other cats. I just don't think she was socialised with other anuimals when she was young, but she learned that she can't terrorise them and that they're here to stay. I make sure she has plenty of 'quality time' but I don't always put her first cause I think he feeds her feeling that she owns me. I do keep a very close on on her and try to nip any aggression in the bud by diffusing it with a toy or a distraction. I do get her in trouble when she trys to be mean but only as a last resort and I make sure that she gets plenty of attention later.

Good luck anyway, but maybe finding her a home where she'd be alone would be easiest.

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14 years 10 months ago #276345 by bridgierapa
Sorry for being the nazi death squad lady - I guess I grew up with a mother who, sweet though she is, and lovely, would say at this point...

"Every animal has a job to do, it doesn't get a free ride. And the job of a pet is to be a pleasure." I realise I sounded cruel but I got the gut feeling that this cat was already a bit of a nightmare, this wasn't simply a situation where it had become a nightmare when the other animal arrived. That's where I came from.

life is so short. Our kids are young for such a little time, and then they're gone. To have a nasty tempered cat for ten to 15 years is awful, if he dominates the dynamic and just causes stress. It's a heck of a long time to have a nasty cat and why hand that problem on to the next person?

They're not people, they're animals and they're on the job. It might seem like I objectify the cat by saying get rid of it but if it were an agrressive dog, 'destroy it' would be a very common response and what's the diff between a dog and a cat? Or a cat and a sheep for that matter? We shoot sheep that didn't even annoy us, and then eat them. It's just a habit to think of a cat as a kind of person, to feel that obligation and commitment towards them we would towards a person, and to feel obligated to carry on in a dead relationship with them forever because we made our bed and so have to lie in it, and they're not 'that bad'. Not all toms are a nightmare. Most toms are lovely to humans.

We had a ghastly cat when I was a kid: white, evil, downright nasty. Mum thought it had been overhandled/bullied as a kitten before we got it - anyway, it had to be put down (went through a fence, got wire going in its eye and out its mouth, really horrible) and we got a lovely kitten called Tabitha who gave us joy and pleasure and snuggles for many years. Now, what's the diff between a cat getting put down, and a cat getting wire through its eye and being put down? Only the wire, and who would wish that on an animal?

Now, where is my tin hat....

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14 years 10 months ago #276366 by NZ Appaloosas
So what's wrong with finding a new place for this cat to do its job? I've taken in a number of "can't be coped with" cats, over the years, and with the exception of one, all have stayed with me until old age took them. The one exception was a cat I had to rehome to move here--he went to my next door neighbour, still as an only cat, and this time without any boisterous dogs to annoy him

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14 years 10 months ago #276429 by maggies mum
Replied by maggies mum on topic Naughty cat - what would you do?
Aww some horrid suggestions people! :(

Try some of the more helpful suggestions like finding a new home throught the CPL etc!

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14 years 10 months ago #276565 by bridgierapa

NZ Appaloosas;256968 wrote: So what's wrong with finding a new place for this cat to do its job? I've taken in a number of "can't be coped with" cats, over the years, and with the exception of one, all have stayed with me until old age took them. The one exception was a cat I had to rehome to move here--he went to my next door neighbour, still as an only cat, and this time without any boisterous dogs to annoy him

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That's a very fair question and I've been wondering to myself where I really do stand.

The reason for putting the cat down for me comes down to the fact that room at the spca is limited, people who go to the spca to get a cat are finite, and at some point one has to stack animals up and decide which will live and which will die - and this happens already. A cat unchosen at the SPCA for a certain period of time, determined by influx of new cats, gets put down.

So Tiddles gets put down because someone showed up with Slasher and Tiddles was bumped. And Fluffy gets put down because when someone came in to pick a cat, they chose Throat Gorger, and fluffy sat there till her time was up, not triggering anyone's save the underdog instincts. "Fluffy will get a home anyway" they thought altruistically. "Whereas Slicer won't, so I'll take Slicer." And darling fluffy sat there, and sat there, and sat there till her number was up.

I just can't hack it. If cats don't get along together that's their problem and they will eventually sort it out, with a little bit of separation and slow reintroduction. But if a cat goes for children, that's another situation altogether. Cats cannot be resocialised once they're adult, they can only be ringfenced, put in a situation where their aggression is never triggered. Even accidentally. And it only takes one swipe at the 9 month old granddaughter who has just learned to crawl, to take out her eye.

But I don't know this particular cat, and I don't know how bad he is. He may avoid children, go away from them when they show up, in which case he is safe to send to the spca I guess. Only a very few are antagonised by children and actively swipe them when there is a choice to walk away.

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14 years 10 months ago #276589 by Seaside
The Cat Protection League don't put cats down - they keep them until they find a suitable home. There may be a wait to get them to take him because of this, but it might be worth it if you want to be assured he won't be destroyed if he doesn't find a home fast enough. We always get our cats from the CPL.

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14 years 9 months ago #283003 by DebM
Hi, sorry I know this is an old thread but I've just joined the forum and I've been reading back.

My sister was having similar trouble with her cat and after a check up to make sure nothing was physically wrong with him the vet's only answer was to give him "pussy prozac" or put him to sleep. Neither option was appealing so she spiked his water with Rescue Remedy and other Bach Flower potions and it worked a treat! He settled down straight away.

Might be worth a try...

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