Swine flu warning - be careful if you own pigs

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15 years 1 month ago #17880 by Pumpkingirl
UPDATED - Wednesday April 29th, 11.30am

Was listening to the rural news on Radio NZ and the Pork Industry were warning all people who own pigs to be careful who they let onto their properties.

Their concern was that while commercial pig operations have very set biosecurity rules that would prevent the spread of swine flu, small farm owners and backyard pig owners probably don't, and don't even think about it.

This MAY or MAY NOT be relevant to you or your block, but at least you will be informed:

From NZ Pork Industry Board
Recommended Minimum Farm Biosecurity Standard for Pork Producers
1 Stand Down Period

All persons, vehicles and equipment that enter a pig farm where possible must have had no contact with pigs or their housing for 24 hours before they enter a pig farm. For the purposes of this Standard, lairage at a slaughter house is considered to be external to the farm.
2 Cleaning and Disinfection
In addition to a 24-hour stand down period, all vehicles that have entered a
piggery in the past must be washed before entering another pig farm. For the purposes of this Standard, a vehicle is considered to have entered a piggery if it comes within 10 m of the pigs or their housing.
  • In addition to a 24-hour stand down period, all equipment that has been on a piggery in the past must be washed and disinfected before it is taken onto another pig farm.
  • In addition to a 24-hour stand down period, persons must have showered in the 24 hours before entering a pig farm.
  • All clothing and footwear that is worn onto a piggery must be clean.
  • Footwear that has entered another piggery in the past must be scrubbed cleanand soaked in a licensed disinfectant for 5 minutes before it is consideredclean. Particular attention must be paid to clothing and footwear to whichpigs or their environment may be directly exposed (e.g. overalls andgumboots).
3 Other Animals
Contact between pigs and other animals, and access of other animals to pig
areas should be prevented where possible.
All farmers should maintain a thorough rodent reduction programme.
4 Other Pigs
Producers should discuss biosecurity issues pertaining to the introduction of
new stock with their veterinarian. In all instances, however, it is
recommended that pigs are obtained from the minimum number of sources.

Symptoms of swine influenza in pigs
Symptoms of swine influenza in pigs include sudden onset of fever, depression, coughing (barking), discharge from the nose or eyes, sneezing, breathing difficulties, eye redness or inflammation, and loss of appetite.

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15 years 1 month ago #265555 by The Kats Place
Bugga! Another thing to worry about. Nobody is getting near my pigs!

kats
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15 years 1 month ago #265557 by reggit
Wonder what the incubation period is...pity they can't quarantine all incoming flights from affected areas until the passengers prove clear of it (or otherwise...) [;)]

Take a break...while I take care of your home, your block, your pets, your stock! [;)] PM me...

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15 years 1 month ago #265559 by Stu_R
:) TKP ... um but what about me ? i am Kiwi , not been on any pig farms .. and way to poor to travel overseas :)
:) and i dont think sheepies, goats or Olives get it :)
so i is :) ( for once in my life :) ) innocent lol

5 retired Greyhounds ( Bridgette , Lilly, GoGo,Sam and now Lenny) 15 friendly sheep all of whom are named and come when you call them :) , 2 goats, Mollie and Eee Bee :
Olive trees , .. old bugger doing the best he can with no money or land :)

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15 years 1 month ago #265560 by Stu_R
well that raises another point tigger
one of the radio guys from here was on that NZ101 flight with those kids from auckalnd.. him and his wife n kids had the flu befor leaving the UK ( and the auckland kids i am guessing joined in LA)
He was saying on the radio this morning ... first they even heard of it was 6pm news last night.... he had not been contacted by authorities at all

5 retired Greyhounds ( Bridgette , Lilly, GoGo,Sam and now Lenny) 15 friendly sheep all of whom are named and come when you call them :) , 2 goats, Mollie and Eee Bee :
Olive trees , .. old bugger doing the best he can with no money or land :)

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15 years 1 month ago #265561 by The Kats Place
OK Stu but I'll be making sure you don't start sneezing!

kats
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15 years 1 month ago #265563 by reggit
Amazing, stu! [:0] Way back when there were all sorts of powers to quarantine if anyone had the declared 'infectious diseases' (typhoid etc).

We can jump on the bandwagon at the click of a pen for terrorist risks (eg stopping folks carrying liquids came in pretty damn quick!) but not for things like this which have a latent and potentially very high cost to the countries where it is spread....

After all the hoopla about bird flu a while back, you'd think they'd have measures to put in place PDQ for something like this.

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15 years 1 month ago #265565 by Stu_R
Yeah Tigger .... i mean the breakfast radio guy here phoned Darren at home this morning ( live on air of course) ... Darren was the boss at local station , but had been on the OE and some training courses
He and his family ( that already had normal flu be for they left UK) were on that flight ... he even said all the kids in that group were easy to spot as they all had sombrero's ( or how ever you spell it)
First he had heard of the swine flu thing was 6pm news when he was at home down this way in Palmerston North.
They had prior to hearing ... transfered to domestic flight from Auckland to Palmerston North, been picked up at palmy airport by friends, got home and no supplies in so gone to supermarket... then when home having dinner they see the news on TV and hear about it

So much for NZ's borader control eh :(

5 retired Greyhounds ( Bridgette , Lilly, GoGo,Sam and now Lenny) 15 friendly sheep all of whom are named and come when you call them :) , 2 goats, Mollie and Eee Bee :
Olive trees , .. old bugger doing the best he can with no money or land :)

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15 years 1 month ago #265566 by Stu_R
Darren did say this morning at 7.15am ... they had not had any contact from authorities what so ever
But after seeing the TV last night
his family were off to see doc's as soon as they oppened

5 retired Greyhounds ( Bridgette , Lilly, GoGo,Sam and now Lenny) 15 friendly sheep all of whom are named and come when you call them :) , 2 goats, Mollie and Eee Bee :
Olive trees , .. old bugger doing the best he can with no money or land :)

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15 years 1 month ago #265567 by Pumpkingirl
What's also a bit scary about this flu is that almost all the people who have died in Mexico so far have been young and healthy. It's not like it's taking out the immune-compromised (ie the elderly or small children).

When I was a child, there was no such thing as biosecurity. One day, the chickens on my parent's farm got very sick, so a specialist avian vet was called in and he was perplexed. It was something quite rare and really bad.. I can't remember what the disease they had was called now, but they were pretty sure it was spread by the different company reps that travelled from farm to farm, wearing the same gumboots, driving through mud and puddles and tracking it right into the sheds.

If you go to a lot of commercial farms now, there are special boots, disinfectant baths for both cars and people, and no-one who is not an employee is allowed anywhere near the animals.

I believe at Bromley Park (big commerical chick-rearing company) there are two sets of employees on two different sites and if you work on one site you are forbidden to go to the other.

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15 years 1 month ago #265573 by Sue
tigger, the bird flu hasn't gone away, its just the media have lost interest!

25 human deaths in Egypt in the last month or so, also outbreaks in poultry in Tibet, Germany, Hong Kong and Kentucky USA.
www.thepoultrysite.com/bird-flu/bird-flu-news.php

I think that the fact they did have a plan of action for Avian Influenza has helped get the latest scare isolated, treated and on the lookout for more. Just imagine if those kids had gone back to school today, and then the powers that be suddenly decided there was a problem, things could have been a helluva lot worse.
People travel on planes with coughs and colds all the time. I read the latest idea that the school party thought their illness was due to the Mexican food!

To get the isolation and treatment system up and running within 24 hours of the suspect bugs arriving is pretty good I think for a govt. department!

Sue
Labrador lover for yonks, breeder of pedigree Murray Grey cattle for almost as long, and passionate poultry person for more years than I care to count.

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15 years 1 month ago #265578 by Sue
Yeah PG, scary stuff with the poultry farms thing!
T.s car boot is always full of clean overall, paper hats, overboots and a pair of gumboots with a bucket for the stinkiest disinfectant he can find. It's just great for putting the groceries in the boot on the weekend! And when he goes by plane, the bag of overalls and paper hats and overboots goes too.

Actually when we had a national poultry disease scare back in the early 1990's it was interesting just to track who did go too and from various poultry farms. [:0]
Meter readers, salesmen of all sorts,(the poultry reps are usually quite careful!) manure clean out trucks, shavings delivery trucks, feed trucks, egg collection trucks, fertiliser spreader trucks, and just plain visitors!

When it all came down to it the disease was probably spread by vaccine! A lot of birds had been vaccinated with an imported vaccine, which also contained a disease we don't have here. It gave a titre in the blood of the organism (Infectious Bursal Disease) though they didn't have any symptoms and didn't get sick. It took at least 6 months to get to the bottom of the source-and the industry still tests every poultry shed of commercial farmers every year-nearly 20 years later!

There is a very high biosecurity at the big company poultry breeding farms, not only not moving staff from farm to farm but having them showering in to work and a complete change of clothes as well.

The pig farms have the same sort of biosecurity and pig farmers are extremely worried at the moment anyway because of MAF's descision to let uncooked pork be imported, in case it does carry a disease which can be transmitted to the live pigs.

Sue
Labrador lover for yonks, breeder of pedigree Murray Grey cattle for almost as long, and passionate poultry person for more years than I care to count.

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15 years 1 month ago #265582 by Seaside
Do you know whether the people have to have contact with the pigs? People seem to come and go here, either invited or not. The bin men, those of religious persuasion, brush salespeople... but none of these goes within 100 metres of our pig paddock.

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15 years 1 month ago #265584 by Sue
Stu R, the school party didn't know about it themselves so it is hardly fair to say there was no border control for the people that were travelling on the same plane. Like all these things, it has to start somwhere and its hardly likely the Health dept knew about it before the party left LA-if they didn't know themselves.
It does go to show how something can spread so easily even before the diagnosis is made though.

Seaside, don't panic about pigs just yet!
Diseases spread just by someone carrying the disease in the form of dust, manure or somewhere the virus can survive, and then some innocent person getting the dust/muck etc from the clothes, hair, shoes etc and taking it home to their pigs-even though they might not have had physical contact themselves with the affected animals.

If you just imagine the bin men pull up outside your gate, they had been to an affected/infected farm, some crud or other drops off the wheels, bottom of the truck, their shoes or worse still the wheels or bottom of the wheeely bin. You then unknowingly walk through said crud-and off to feed the pigs-see how easy it could get there?

Sue
Labrador lover for yonks, breeder of pedigree Murray Grey cattle for almost as long, and passionate poultry person for more years than I care to count.

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15 years 1 month ago #265612 by Stu_R
OK Sue :) point taken on that :) for a start ... um once it was known , by 6pm TV news last night ... why were not the other passengers on that flight contacted ?
After working 17 years for Air NZ .. passenger lists and reservation files ( which contain all their contact numbers) are a matter of a 10 second type into computer and print out.
So by 6pm news it was known ... why by 7.15am this morning when Darren was on radio, was he not contacted?
Sorry i do not agree with you on this one ... which is my prerogative not to ... i worked for the airline for 17 years , i know how easy it is to get those lists

5 retired Greyhounds ( Bridgette , Lilly, GoGo,Sam and now Lenny) 15 friendly sheep all of whom are named and come when you call them :) , 2 goats, Mollie and Eee Bee :
Olive trees , .. old bugger doing the best he can with no money or land :)

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