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14 years 9 months ago #993 by Celtic_Kiwi
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Need your opinion:

We are a small 5 acre lifestyle block.

As part of our homeschooling project we are selling the eggs our chooks lay (barely covering the cost of feeding them)

As I have shared, our litter of piglets have all died. Taking into account, they could have sold at approx. $50 each, we have 'lost' approx $300.

Hubby was a bit blaze about that, and as we do not depend on the income as some, I felt maybe a lesson was needed.

If we WERE dependant on the livestock for income, $300 is appox a fortnight's groceries for us. I was wondering if I changed our diet accordingly, not as a punishment, just as a learning thing that if we lose stock how it affects us. (Hope this makes sense)

Is it a lesson worth trying to teach??

Celtic_Kiwi
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14 years 9 months ago #53771 by reggit
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Interesting thought...and perhaps one that you would implement later down the track once you've had a couple of litters and know a bit more about what to do so the loss is not just due to being a newby? (am assuming that this is your first shot at it...) I like your thinking though...is this more an exercise for the kids or something you and hubby are wanting to implement as part of the family finances, ie integrated into budget.

Have you read "Animal Vegetable Miracle" by Barbara Kingsolver? Her 9 year old daughter was the sole chicken person who could get income from the eggs but also had to cover costs...her daughter was adamant that she wouldn't eat the chooks UNTIL she discovered how much she could get for organic chicken meat [}:)]:D Mum also made her pay back the set up costs of buying the original chooks etc.

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14 years 9 months ago #53773 by drifter
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Yes. Makes sense to use it as a life lesson. But, I wouldn't count the cost as $300 tho'. Perhaps an exercise to work out the gross, minus the extra feed that would have been required, 'budget' that you may have lost one or two anyway, factor in whatever you were keeping for yourselves, think about what might be considered capital (e.g with the money you got from the piglets you were going to buy wire or similar for the block) and then use the net figure. Then ask the kids to save that off the grocery list, but not allowing it to be all cleaning products or your wine [:0]etc.
To me it makes sense to use it as a lesson but only if they are involved in the process. Sounds like fun!

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14 years 9 months ago #53837 by rob
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we have all lost money on some projects, all you can do is learn from this and try again.
dont change you diet, just change hubbys
hope it all goes well for next time

Rob

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14 years 9 months ago #53867 by Kiwismum
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Well as one homeschooling mum to another, life is a lesson.

How far you take this particular lesson would of course depend on several issues.
* how old you children are
* what you long term goal in their education is
* does it fit in with your life style.
* what is your teaching style
* what is their learning styles

If it is your family way to live what you are trying to teach, then it is very appropriate to follow the path you have planned.

However if there another side to the coin, in that even though the piglets died perhaps since you have such a lot of eggs, they can see that where one thing fails, another succeeds. This means that the family doesn't need to starve, just eat more eggs. After all it is not about commercialism. Money isn't everything, and being to find a positive in the face of disaster is a good thing too.

Just my take, but I don't think you should change your plan if you feel strongly about it.

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14 years 9 months ago #53868 by Dream Weaver
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I agree with tigger, don't make it a life lesson this time as it was your first and I would just put it down to a learning curve. Wait till ya not a newbie at it lolI mean in ways it was the first time the kids have had to deal with losing the whole litter, so they need to work through that which is enough this time.

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14 years 9 months ago #53872 by reggit
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quote:As part of our homeschooling project we are selling the eggs our chooks lay (barely covering the cost of feeding them)

I would be thinking of getting some more chooks so you not only cover the cost of feed but make a little too :D

I don't know anything about homeschooling but...have you thought about the kids developing a marketing plan and some goals as to what they may want to use the money on if they start going better than breaking even? I remember as a child that was a powerful incentive, and also taught me that if I wanted something I had to find a way to make it happen.:D

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14 years 9 months ago #53971 by Celtic_Kiwi
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Thank you all for your input.

Boys are 9 and 8, 9yr old is quite up on the play when it comes to numbers, so I brought this into play.

Am just trying to keep it basic for them, cause and effect type stuff. Series of events. i.e we buy the grain, we feed the chooks, they lay the eggs, we sell the eggs, we get the money to buy the grain........ that sort of thing.

My long term goal in this is giving them the life skills to live and manage their own lives independantly. I was told one of my boys would struggle to do this, and it was questioned whether he would ever be able to. Very happy to say after alot of intense work on his part and us creating the environment which best suits him, I think the outlook is going to be just fine.

Have so much more to type and share, but I have a busy day today, so must away.

Thank you all again. Food for thought here.

Celtic_Kiwi
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14 years 9 months ago #53993 by Dream Weaver
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Mate, from what I have seen of your boys, they will do just fine. they have overcome some pretty hard obstacles and you do wonders with them.

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14 years 9 months ago #54029 by Kiwismum
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So at their ages I personally think it would be worth having there input on what ideas they have about how to manage with the short fall in potential income.

I also happen to know that ero look very favourable at this sort of education, as long as when you get reviewed you can convert into 'eduspeak'.

Other than that just as part of life, then keep doing what you are doing, because you know what is right for them better than anyone.

Well done:)

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