Car troubles - new motor
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16 years 8 months ago #9135 by Youngfarmer
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After over heating my car several times i need a new motor or get rid of car. When getting a new motor/second hand so you have to re register in under your name or something costing a further 3-4 hundred dollars?
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16 years 8 months ago #146787 by reggit
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We had to replace the engine on one of our work 4wds a few years back, don't recall having to make any changes to our registration...dunno if things have changed since then, are you meaning because you'll have a new engine number?
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16 years 8 months ago #146794 by wyseyes
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Usually no registration details need changing, but there is one thing that bugs me.
The odometer in a car is used to guage accurately how far a car has travelled. It is also a very good indicator on how used/worn the engine is, as this is something which cannot be easily guaged by just looking at it. The body of a car is a more static thing, and it is a little easier to tell if the car has had a rough life. We use the odo to determine when to change the oil, and various belts.
Interestingly, boat engines and tractors don't use distance travelled as the guage, they use engine hours.
Now, when you replace the motor in a car, what happens to the odo? Do you reset it? Do you change it to better represent the actual distance the new motor has travelled? If it is a new motor, do you set it to zero?
Nope, it's not touched. Must not be altered. Illegal, in fact.
Again in boats, if you replace the motor, the hourmeter usually gets pulled and new one put in. It is measuring engine hours, not boat hours.
/sidetrack mode off.
Oh it usually isn't worth replacing the motor, it would be (I'm guessing soc I don't know your car make/model) at least $1200 for a reconditioned motor, and then double it to get it installed. Is it worth it?
We bought a zippy little runaround a while back, at the vehicle auctions. Great little car, wouldn't rust, I only replaced a spongy steering wheel (cost $18), and a spark plug (cost $7) in the whole 3 years we had it. Bought $700, sold $1300.
The odometer in a car is used to guage accurately how far a car has travelled. It is also a very good indicator on how used/worn the engine is, as this is something which cannot be easily guaged by just looking at it. The body of a car is a more static thing, and it is a little easier to tell if the car has had a rough life. We use the odo to determine when to change the oil, and various belts.
Interestingly, boat engines and tractors don't use distance travelled as the guage, they use engine hours.
Now, when you replace the motor in a car, what happens to the odo? Do you reset it? Do you change it to better represent the actual distance the new motor has travelled? If it is a new motor, do you set it to zero?
Nope, it's not touched. Must not be altered. Illegal, in fact.
Again in boats, if you replace the motor, the hourmeter usually gets pulled and new one put in. It is measuring engine hours, not boat hours.
/sidetrack mode off.
Oh it usually isn't worth replacing the motor, it would be (I'm guessing soc I don't know your car make/model) at least $1200 for a reconditioned motor, and then double it to get it installed. Is it worth it?
We bought a zippy little runaround a while back, at the vehicle auctions. Great little car, wouldn't rust, I only replaced a spongy steering wheel (cost $18), and a spark plug (cost $7) in the whole 3 years we had it. Bought $700, sold $1300.
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16 years 8 months ago #146802 by Kiwi303
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are you replacing the motor becasue the overheating is a symptom or a cause? is your gasket going or did you forget to check the coolant?
not really worth changing an engine unless theres a warranty involved or an engine upgrade like a 12B turbo into a piston body, or a V8 into anything
what type of car do you have? Make n Model? check trademe for engines they're reasonably priced, far better than from a wrecker, and the quality is just as good if it's from a wrecked car. but watch out for ppl who replaced there engine with a similiar one, the one taken out that they'd be sellign then is likely to have a problem but if they replace a normal engine with a turbo engine, they replaced one is usually still good.
caveat emptor.
edit. re the re-registration. thats only nessesary if the car was de-reged to start with. commonplace with projects such as a 70's muscle cars where the rego expired before the projectee bought it and dropped in a bigger engine or summat, but not nessesary if you're workign on a current reg car. regos are tracked by the chassis number/Vin number, if you were to make your hatchback into a convertible, changing the body, then you;d need a small volume ehicle certification inspection and rego change. but not for a new motor, or an old one either.
Drop a V8 in and ejoy life for as long as you and the car are upright
not really worth changing an engine unless theres a warranty involved or an engine upgrade like a 12B turbo into a piston body, or a V8 into anything

what type of car do you have? Make n Model? check trademe for engines they're reasonably priced, far better than from a wrecker, and the quality is just as good if it's from a wrecked car. but watch out for ppl who replaced there engine with a similiar one, the one taken out that they'd be sellign then is likely to have a problem but if they replace a normal engine with a turbo engine, they replaced one is usually still good.
caveat emptor.
edit. re the re-registration. thats only nessesary if the car was de-reged to start with. commonplace with projects such as a 70's muscle cars where the rego expired before the projectee bought it and dropped in a bigger engine or summat, but not nessesary if you're workign on a current reg car. regos are tracked by the chassis number/Vin number, if you were to make your hatchback into a convertible, changing the body, then you;d need a small volume ehicle certification inspection and rego change. but not for a new motor, or an old one either.
Drop a V8 in and ejoy life for as long as you and the car are upright

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16 years 8 months ago #146853 by Youngfarmer
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the car over heated dues to a hole in the water pump which i did not know about, and because im an idiot (to put it lightly) i drove after it over heated (after stopping and letting it cool down a bit). anyway the head is crack and few other things. i have found a motor for 200 which seems ok but also may be able to get one for free as know a guy who noes a guy.
i was told it needs to be re-certified as its a new motor so has a new engine number. or is that not true? also can get it put in for free so at this rate is worth fixing as can't afford a new car.
i was told it needs to be re-certified as its a new motor so has a new engine number. or is that not true? also can get it put in for free so at this rate is worth fixing as can't afford a new car.
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16 years 8 months ago #146859 by reggit
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Check with the LTSA, you might be able to find out from their website?
Sounds like a good deal if you can get it so cheap, ours cost an arm and a leg both to buy and to get put in...[V]
Sounds like a good deal if you can get it so cheap, ours cost an arm and a leg both to buy and to get put in...[V]
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16 years 8 months ago #146860 by wino
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If you are just changing the motor for the same type and size as the car previously had in it you will not have to have it certified. All you need to do is change the engine number on the details next time you do your rego (or probably not even that - the world is unlikely to end if you don't)
If you are putting in a larger motor than was in the car originally you will have to have it certified - they will check that the brakes are sufficient to stop the now go faster car and things like that.
If you are putting in a larger motor than was in the car originally you will have to have it certified - they will check that the brakes are sufficient to stop the now go faster car and things like that.
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16 years 8 months ago #146868 by skyline_glenn
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Yea, no need to change anything. just drop in new motor and drive unless it is a big power upgrade. My brother and I just put in a second hand motor in my work ute because i overheated and warped the head. If your temperature guage ever drops pull over imediatly. Can be a sign of no water in the radiator causing no reading from the temperature sender. I just thought the thermostat was jammed open.
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16 years 8 months ago #146962 by Youngfarmer
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yeh im lucky tigger, happen to get on well with one of my teachers and he is setting me up.
the motor will be same size so sounds good.
thats for the info, will just put in new motor and see what the mechanic says when i go for the w.o.f
the motor will be same size so sounds good.
thats for the info, will just put in new motor and see what the mechanic says when i go for the w.o.f
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