Leasing prices for small acrerage Sth Auckland

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5 years 11 months ago #523708 by ratso
Can anyone advise me of approx price per acre for a small block in Nth Waikato. I'm about to lease just 1 paddock of around 5 acres, water, good fences etc.

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5 years 11 months ago #523765 by LongRidge
It rather depends on what you want to grow, and the conditions that the owner puts on the lease document. If you want animals and the owner wants access, that is really difficult to handle at times. I've had animals die from being smoked by the owner, lead poisoned by another land owner, complaints that they cannot walk their dogs through my animals, and had poisonous garden plants and weeds thrown over into my animals. Other people have had their crops destroyed by the land owner spraying herbicides in the near vicinity. Another problem that I have is that I have to walk the animals home from the small leased blocks because they have inadequate or no stock yards.
Another big problem is that owners that have not tried to farm the land do not realise how much effort goes into it. They only see the high prices and forget that only happens for 2 years in 10. 6 years are about break even, and 2 years big losses. So when the value of your crop improves, the owners decide that farming is an easy way to make lots of cash, so terminate the lease. For my stock I need 6 months notice so that I can quit stock without making a huge loss. For crops, the notice would need to be longer.

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5 years 11 months ago - 5 years 11 months ago #523792 by ratso
That was a rather long winded response to tell me nothing :dry:
I just want to know a fair price to charge for a grazing lease of ONE 5 acre paddock $ ??? - $??? :S
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5 years 11 months ago - 5 years 11 months ago #523795 by Rokker

ratso wrote: That was a rather long winded response to tell me nothing :dry:


Well if your question was a little less vague you'd get a better answer!


ratso wrote: I just want to know a fair price to charge for a grazing lease of ONE 5 acre paddock $ ??? - $??? :S


Again . . . how long is a piece of string? It depends on so many factors. What animals are you prepared to take? Horses? R1 cattle? 5 yr old bulls? And what kind of land is it? Steep hill country or flatlands - Nth Waikato has both. What other facilities are included in your "etc" ? And what is the demand for grazing land in your area?

Do NOT cross this paddock! ... Unless you can do it in 9 seconds, 'cos the bull can do it in 10!
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5 years 11 months ago #523799 by Stikkibeek
Ratso it isn't quite clear if you are leasing it out to someone else, or you are planning on leasing it yourself. If the former, we charge out grazing only for horses at 3.71 per horse per day. That is on the low side for this area, but our grazers are long term and reliable and we don't have to do anything to them (although do cast an eye over them each day), Cattle grazing is more like 3-6 dollars per animal per week.
To lease the land out, you would be bound by a lease agreement, and this can be difficult so it pays to get something legal. A signed agreement for grazing only leaves you still in charge of costs like fencing etc, so consider what you want to cover if you lease out. Same thing in reverse if you are leasing "in"

Did you know, that what you thought I said, was not what I meant :S

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5 years 11 months ago #523814 by ratso
Just leasing out for cows/calves 3 monthly terms

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5 years 11 months ago - 5 years 11 months ago #523910 by max2
In our area of Nth Waikato dairy grazers were being charged more than beef grazers so again there will be differences. As well as variances for the type of land, water supply, fencing etc.

The ones I know about in our district are mostly done on a per acre figure unless its for horses (which as you have indicated you are not stocking is irrelevant). That way when they rotate their stock through other lands or close a paddock up to make hay, you are still deriving an income from the lease. The ones I know about are done on long term leases as well.

Give Adrian at Wrightsons Pukekohe a call on Monday as he knows most properties in the greater district and can put you on the mark with an estimate.
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