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7 years 7 months ago #38693 by max2
And no, its nothing to do with a recent escapee [:0]:rolleyes: ..... as per my other thread re the d1sputes tr1bunal, I have been told we need to supply the full names of the parties being served.

Hubby knew of them as Mr & Mrs, we have the hubby's first name, and a letter from them using initials and their surname.

Thinking the electoral roll would be of assistance, it turns out Mrs isn't listed at all with the surname.

Any ideas of how I find out her legal name? Have completed a title search on the property involved and its only in his name.

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7 years 7 months ago #497842 by Stikkibeek
You could try through car registration if she has her own car if you know the make and number plate, possibly school records if they have school aged kids, but schools are bound by privacy. You can usually get to read the file held at council on a property title and may get lucky and find a reference to her (if you haven't already done this) If they are rural, your rural delivery guy might know/help, or a longshot their neighbour? Might take a bit of native cunning on the last one.

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7 years 7 months ago #497843 by max2
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Many thanks Stikki I have the same info as council, the water provider won't confirm if a woman's name is on the account to begin with, I have emailed the police, no kids - older couple. NZ post doesn't give CS any name details (which surprised me), got someone else working on it ''their way'' who may know someone in the area, tried faceb**k under his name no luck.

I have a letter from them which only gives initials and his surname (as hers) but its not how she exists as far as the electoral roll goes... why is it so hard when its a genuine need? [xx(]

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7 years 7 months ago #497844 by Ruth
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We found exactly the same issues. There were so many barriers to even starting the process! It took real tenacity to prevail.

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7 years 7 months ago #497845 by max2
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Ruth;503343 wrote: We found exactly the same issues. There were so many barriers to even starting the process! It took real tenacity to prevail.

I will be stalking her to get car details very soon if I have no luck formal ways.

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7 years 7 months ago #497850 by Hawkspur
I don't know how much information you need to do a marriage search but if you have his full name, that should be enough. If you have a RealMe ID you can probably do this online at the Dept. of Internal Affairs .

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7 years 7 months ago #497853 by Stikkibeek

Hawkspur;503349 wrote: I don't know how much information you need to do a marriage search but if you have his full name, that should be enough. If you have a RealMe ID you can probably do this online at the Dept. of Internal Affairs .

That presupposes they are married. Funny that she doesn't appear on the electoral roll, so is possibly in a defacto relationship in which case a marriage certificate won't help.

Worth a long shot with his name though, and you can always claim "family history research" if internal affairs want to know the relationship. I've found in the past though, that as long as you pay up your $26? you can get access. You will have to fill in a form that identifys you though, but I doubt they pass those on to anyone. If you are a persistent sleuth you might be able to find her in the electoral roll under his address, but it would mean trawling through every name in the roll. Knowing her initials might help speed the process as i think they are arranged alphabetically

Good luck

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7 years 7 months ago #497854 by max2
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Stikkibeek;503352 wrote: That presupposes they are married. Funny that she doesn't appear on the electoral roll, so is possibly in a defacto relationship in which case a marriage certificate won't help.

Worth a long shot with his name though, and you can always claim "family history research" if internal affairs want to know the relationship. I've found in the past though, that as long as you pay up your $26? you can get access. You will have to fill in a form that identifys you though, but I doubt they pass those on to anyone. If you are a persistent sleuth you might be able to find her in the electoral roll under his address, but it would mean trawling through every name in the roll. Knowing her initials might help speed the process as i think they are arranged alphabetically

Good luck

Don't worry Stikki I had the Hunua book in my hand today and thought.... how long do I have until picking up the NC3A student from her exams?

Sadly not long enough but I do have initials (presuming they are telling the truth on their letter to start with.... I am convinced more and more they have been through this before. but its based on surnames anyhow.

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7 years 7 months ago #497857 by Organix
Another possibility is to search the Companies Office for him as a director or shareholder of a registered company. If he is found this way there is a good chance she is also a co-director or shareholder of the company. (Hint: Use the 'Option' dropdown to search for director or shareholder.)

Good luck :)

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7 years 7 months ago #497869 by max2
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Organix;503358 wrote: Another possibility is to search the Companies Office for him as a director or shareholder of a registered company. If he is found this way there is a good chance she is also a co-director or shareholder of the company. (Hint: Use the 'Option' dropdown to search for director or shareholder.)

Good luck :)

Excellent thought, but I struck out there too.

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7 years 7 months ago #497870 by kai
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Get a friend to pop round looking for a name similar to the initials with whatever rouse you think the most plausible - a solicitor trying to track down a beneficiary , a long lost relative, or something else. People will usually give out their real name if they think there is something of benefit to them. Or even if they are just asking to use their phone as they have broken down and introduce themselves, they are likely to get at very least the first name given to them.

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7 years 7 months ago #497979 by loopi
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A bit of a long shot might be the tenancy tribunal orders https://forms.justice.govt.nz/search/TT/ , otherwise ancient telephone books can be useful for people who used to have nothing to hide.

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7 years 7 months ago #497981 by max2
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loopi;503496 wrote: A bit of a long shot might be the tenancy tribunal orders https://forms.justice.govt.nz/search/TT/ , otherwise ancient telephone books can be useful for people who used to have nothing to hide.

Many thanks. Nothing under Hubby's name which doesn't surprise me as he is named on the title for a number of years. Even googling their address only brings his name up.
[}:)]

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7 years 7 months ago #497982 by max2
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Light bulb moment!!!!

I went onto the gazette govt notices from g0ggling the address concerned, and this is a long shot but in 1996 at the adjoining property a woman with the same initials as our Mrs was made bankrupt.... what is the chances is the one and the same? Explains a few things.

Now I have a new surname to work with, its off to the library to check the electoral notices again..

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7 years 7 months ago #497984 by max2
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https://gazette.govt.nz/ if anyone ever needs to search for someone

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