A book that has changed our minds on Milk.

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8 years 4 months ago #37086 by Kiwi Tussock
Has anyone else read the book called "The China Study" written by T. Colin Campbell (a Dr) and his son?

It was recommended to me and I found the piece of paper I wrote the name on then went to find it at the library. I got half way through it then went and ordered it.
The first half was pretty much looking at his credentials but the last bit "just blew my mind" so to speak. The super list of References & studies (and Id suggest that they are so numerous that they decided to make them in a smaller font so as not to take up so many pages) is amazing!

I look forward to reading what people have to say about the writing/info from their perspective.
I (in my early 60's) now look at the causes of osteoporosis differently and as I frequently spend quite a lot of time in a remote Nth'n part of the Philippines and hear of and see virtually no sign of osteoporosis, I think the author is dead right.
What else are we lied to about? Big business can't be trusted and most of us know that, but Milk? Whow!
Is it the same for other health related ailments & remedies??? Are the so called experts REALLY telling us the truth?
Are we not only ruining the soils & waters of our magnificent country of ours but us, our kids and grand kids as well?

Am I over reacting? I don't believe so but would certainly like some views from others who have read the book and maybe like me, have followed up some of the research the author mentioned.

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8 years 4 months ago #481813 by funnyfarm331
I haven't read the entire book and whilst I agree with some things the author claims, my concern is that he ignores plant derived foods such as gluten which can also cause major health issues.
I have heard of people who have had great success in reversing conditions such as heart disease using his 'diet'.

I am always very sceptical of what the so called experts claim, and I personally think that many health products are simply enormous $ earners for their makers. Not all but many are. I think many consumers are driven to have the best etc and believe marketing ploys to get them to spend money on things that really don't do what it is claimed they will do.

As with all these studies and claims, I think it is important to read, think, research and apply great doses of common sense. I personally think sugar is the worst thing in most diets these days and whilst I am the first to reach for a sweet fix with my late coffee we try to limit refined sugar.

Whereabouts in the Philippines do you travel to? We were over there a year ago and absolutely love the country and the people. Hope to get back there oneday.

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8 years 4 months ago #481817 by Ruth
KT, are you involved in the publication of that book or something? Your post reads like an advertisement!

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8 years 4 months ago #481823 by Kilmoon
So, what does he say about milk?

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8 years 4 months ago #481826 by kai

Kilmoon;485611 wrote: So, what does he say about milk?


darn it! you just had to mention the elephant in the room didn't you? :D :D

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8 years 4 months ago #481832 by Ruth
Elephant milk is causing human health decline?

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8 years 4 months ago #481836 by kai

Ruth;485622 wrote: Elephant milk is causing human health decline?

It could be, imagine if you had to deal with all the elephant shit if you were milking a herd of them? Cow milkers have a big enough problem as it is!

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8 years 4 months ago #481842 by Stikkibeek

kai;485626 wrote: It could be, imagine if you had to deal with all the elephant shit if you were milking a herd of them? Cow milkers have a big enough problem as it is!

But the compost would be absolutely divine! The pumpkins, and tomatoes would be elephant sized. :p

Did you know, that what you thought I said, was not what I meant :S

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8 years 4 months ago #481843 by Blueberry

Stikkibeek;485632 wrote: But the compost would be absolutely divine! The pumpkins, and tomatoes would be elephant sized. :p


and it would make the roses bloom :D :D

[;)] Blueberry
treading lightly on mother earth

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8 years 4 months ago #481845 by igor
Try milking a reluctant first calver elephant and see how far you get.

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8 years 4 months ago #481847 by kai

igor;485635 wrote: Try milking a reluctant first calver elephant and see how far you get.

How did it go for you? :)

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8 years 4 months ago #481852 by igor
Haven't tried it myself. Our block is not suitable for elephant farming. Can't imagine that it would be easy though. A stroppy bovine cow is difficult enough. I'd be keen to try the steak off an elephant if anyone was offering.

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8 years 4 months ago #481855 by kai

igor;485642 wrote: Haven't tried it myself. Our block is not suitable for elephant farming. Can't imagine that it would be easy though. A stroppy bovine cow is difficult enough. I'd be keen to try the steak off an elephant if anyone was offering.

I've got 1kg of prime elephant steak going here only $200 a kg - any takers?

and 500 tons of manure to go with it....

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8 years 4 months ago #481896 by spark
Hi,

There are dissenting opinions out there;
For example, Denise Minger’s critique of The China Study:
rawfoodsos.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/

This gained a response from Dr Campbell:
tynan.com/chinastudyresponse

The way that I see it, is that biologically, we are omnivores, adapted to ancient conditions, and that our bodies are not adapted to handle many "modern" foods including: refined carbohydrates (sugar, flour, corn syrup, etc), trans-fat (hydrogenated oil), oxidised fat (processed food), too much omega6 and not enough omega3 (seed oil, meat from grain fed animals), and then there is also the issue of sedentary lifestyles and chronic stress, etc

Bon Appétit!

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8 years 4 months ago #481901 by Anne

igor;485635 wrote: Try milking a reluctant first calver elephant and see how far you get.

First of all, make sure you know where the elephant's udder is.

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