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9 years 9 months ago #32963 by Stikkibeek
Yesterday, OH got a traffic infringement notice for "Current license label not affixed in prescribed manner."
The fine is a hefty $200. OH was only parked in the street for 10 minutes while he went to the bank.

As far as I can see, there is no offence. VTNZ says,

When you pay the licensing fee, you get a label that shows the date your licence expires. You must display this label on the left-hand side of your motor vehicle's windscreen, or near your number plate (for trailers or motorcycles). Ask at any of our stations for a new registration pouch for your vehicle, free of charge of course.
Your motor vehicle must have a current Warrant of Fitness or Certificate of Fitness before you can get a licence label or use the motor vehicle on the road.

The car is currently both registered and WOF, the label is on the left hand side as above, and is clearly visible. So what does "prescribed manner mean"? IS the traffic warden picking on the small lift in the very corner of the plastic pouch? It is barely a centimetre concerned.
OH was issued a warning last month and he didn't understand what they were on about then.
I feel that some zealous traffic warden is picking on the car due to it being an old falcon. The one who printed out the fine yesterday, couldn't even specify the side of the road on which the car was parked. It says "side of street: UNKNOWN.
I feel we need to object to this notice most strongly.
What do others think?

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9 years 9 months ago #438729 by rusty260z
Take a picture and and write a letter explaining situation and either visit court fines department or send it in to them, have had fines cancelled by writing in.

Some wardens fine for the smallest things. The above fine seems very unfair if the rego sticker is visible, i would lay a complaint against warden as well.

I would replace the pouch as soon as possible after taking picture, best try not to provide these wardens with even the smallest reason to issue a ticket. Council must be short of money.
Do these wardens operate on a bonus system. hate getting parking fines.

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9 years 9 months ago #438730 by GrantK
You could try taking a photo or two and writing a letter objecting to the fine, and see how you get on. Certainly does sound nit-picky to me, and something I very much doubt would raise any eyebrows around Russell where many vehicles do not have current WOF or Rego. In many rural areas, the cops have better things to do like catching real criminals, but when you go into the larger cities where they can afford parking wardens, you have to be on your best behaviour.

Another place to avoid if you have anything even slightly dodgy with your vehicle is Auckland Airport. The parking wardens there make a sport out of ticketing people for the most minor infringements. If your OH was warned last month and didn't understand what the warning was about, surely he should followed it up and made some enquiries at the local testing station or wherever? Otherwise he was taking a big risk as has been borne out by subsequent events. Hindsight is a wonderful thing eh :)

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9 years 9 months ago #438738 by diggs
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9 years 9 months ago #438750 by stephclark
definately dispute the fine.. in writing to the council ( it hasnt made it the courts yet.. no point in writing to them )
warden with too much time and too little brain.. council infringment office can be alot more sensible.. i have disputed various bollocksy tickets and they have been good about it

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9 years 9 months ago #438753 by Crusha
Hopefully this will help;

Land Transport (Motor Vehicle Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2011

16 Display of licences
  • (1) The licence for a motor vehicle must be displayed as set out in this regulation.

    (2) In the case of a motorcycle, moped, or trailer, the licence must be affixed to the motorcycle, moped, or trailer immediately below or as close as practicable to the registration plate.

    (3) In the case of a motor vehicle that is not a motorcycle, moped, or trailer,—
    • (a) if the motor vehicle is fitted with a windscreen, the licence must be displayed on the inside of the windscreen, as close as practicable to the bottom right-hand corner of the windscreen (when viewed from the outside and front of the motor vehicle):
    • (b) if the motor vehicle is not fitted with a windscreen, the licence must be affixed to the back of the motor vehicle, as close as practicable to the registration plate.
    (4) In every case, the licence must be displayed in an upright, easily visible position.

    (5) The licence for a motor vehicle may be displayed, in the manner described in this regulation, at any time within the month before the date on which the licence comes into force.

    (6) If a licence is displayed in accordance with subclause (5), and a current licence is in force for the motor vehicle, the display of the new licence is sufficient evidence that the motor vehicle is licensed.
In other words the licence label itself just has to be clearly visible it does not have to be in a pouch or any other container etc.

If it is as you describe then write in to the Council Enforcement Manager and seek to have the ticket withdrawn.

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9 years 9 months ago #438781 by Stikkibeek
Yes, the label is in the correct place, is easily visable and is current. I still feel the wardens were targetting the car because it is an old falcon.

Did you know, that what you thought I said, was not what I meant :S

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9 years 9 months ago #438801 by kai
It is also likely that the warden themselves took a picture, so you can also ask to see that.

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9 years 9 months ago #438802 by blimeyvicki
I got a ticket for the same thing when my toddler son took the label out of the little pouchy thing and left it on the front passenger seat. It was visible to anyone outside the car and was like that for maybe an hour until we came back to the car and I realised what had happened. I wrote to the council and sent a photo and they got rid of the ticket. That was pre the "supercity" though.

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9 years 9 months ago #438803 by Crusha
In that case request all copies of any documentation, witness accounts, notebook entries and any other relevant documents (including photos) under the Official Information Act.

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9 years 9 months ago #438824 by igor
Please define "old" Stikki.

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9 years 9 months ago #438863 by Stikkibeek

igor;438131 wrote: Please define "old" Stikki.

78 or 9

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9 years 9 months ago #438865 by kiwi_jon

Stikkibeek;438086 wrote: Yes, the label is in the correct place, is easily visable and is current. I still feel the wardens were targetting the car because it is an old falcon.

Stikkibeek,

What class is your vehicle license? General (G), Exempt A (EA), Exempt B (EB)

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9 years 9 months ago #438879 by Stikkibeek

kiwi_jon;438174 wrote: Stikkibeek,

What class is your vehicle license? General (G), Exempt A (EA), Exempt B (EB)

I suppose it's general. It's just a normal passenger car.

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9 years 9 months ago #438918 by igor
My first falcon and the best falcon six ever made. The iron head cross-flow 4.1 litre. Three speed column change manual with no power steering. Is this like yours Stikki?

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