Holy Hell!!! ACC levies on vehicles

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11 years 6 months ago #25662 by Ghilly
I got the registration bill for the ute..... $467.08 JUST for the ACC levy.... bringing the total to $596.78 for a one year registration!!!!!!

Why? what did we all do to incur such a huge levy? That's three weeks income for me. I don't know how the rest of you diesel drivers out there feel but it's just getting ridiculous. My ute is not a business vehicle, I don't go that far usually, to Pukekohe and back mostly, maybe once or twice a week if that to get to the feed store etc....

What can we do about it? Who in a suit will listen and do something about it?
Smiling John and all those other M.P's need to get real or we'll be living in a third world country supporting idiots on what income we get while the CEO's and other such heirachy get million dollar hand outs.

If I drove 10,00 kms a year, it would cost around $1000 dollars a year just to have the right to drive it and that's not including the diesel and the extra charges stuck on it.

Someone in power needs a good kick in the slacks... Never mind big business, how about they focus on small business and average 'Joe and Josephine' public! After all, they DO work for us do they not?
Are they looking after the interests of Mr, Mrs, Ms or Miss Public? No... they are lining their own pockets, feathering their own nests and holding posies under their noses in the form of their bank balances to blind them from the rest of us.

Well, that's how I see it.

Yakut

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11 years 6 months ago #358499 by reggit
Yakut, see my earlier thread about ACC premiums for those of us who are self-employed too. Looks like ACC is going for the throat this year. And in the meantime, any of us over 40 who have accidents - well, that is degenerative damage, which isn't covered, apparently [:(!]

Take a break...while I take care of your home, your block, your pets, your stock! [;)] PM me...

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11 years 6 months ago #358501 by Ghilly
Yeah, Kim's been reading about those in the news. Degenerative? I'll give them degenerative! SOMEONE is doing rather well out of all this and it's not the users of ACC or small business owners or the general public.

At least, if what they are reporting in the media is true and it goes ahead, MP perks will be slashed.
I have a suggestion for Mr Carter... next time he's away and feeling stressed, take some Rescue remedy sniff some lavender oil, bung a wheatie bag in the micro wave and save the rest of us a fortune.

Yakut

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11 years 6 months ago #358503 by Ronney
This all came in quite a few months ago when ACC was found to be in the crap yet again. There was a hue and cry about it at the time and I think there is another thread about it somewhere over and above Tiggers. Perhaps it's not so surprising that people run around in unregistered, unwarranted, and uninsured vehicles.

Cheers,
Ronnie

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11 years 6 months ago #358504 by Webby
Yeah we just got ours today as well, not self employed and the cruiser hardly get used except to take kids down to the river and a little bit of use on our huge 2 acre block, can't beleive the price they are charging surely there should be a registration on the miles you do and pay accordingly makes more sense to me, we can't even put it under farm use coz I think you need to be GST in all honesty the cruiser would do no more than 200km a year, yes we should sell it but it is one of the older ones and kinda fond of it so for now it has gone on hold

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11 years 6 months ago #358506 by tehoro
Well, you could change to a petrol vehicle and pay 9c per litre in fuel that you put in it.

Or a diesel car instead of a commercial-type vehicle, which is also cheaper.

It is just a result of the way the levies are worked out across fuel and vehicle types.

Here is the other thread which compares diesel vs petrol costs

www.lifestyleblock.co.nz/vforum/showthread.php?t=24524

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11 years 6 months ago #358511 by Organix
Considering the fuss we motorcyclists made about 12 months ago in regard to these ACC levy increases I can only assume that we were the only ones that took note of the details of the intended magnitude. Our catch cry of "Who's Next" was a warning to all - guess you weren't listening :rolleyes:

Personally I grabbed 15 months of rego on all our vehicles just before the increase took effect on 1st July so it will be September next year before we get the extra shafting [B)]

Also keep in mind that the increases for diesel vehicle rego's will also be passed on from the farmers and frieght companies so a double whammy for some :(

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11 years 6 months ago #358516 by igor
And just how do you suggest that the farmers pass on the increased cost? The real farmers are being screwed just like us pretend ones!

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11 years 6 months ago #358552 by Organix

igor;349038 wrote: And just how do you suggest that the farmers pass on the increased cost? The real farmers are being screwed just like us pretend ones!

By closing their wallets even more than at present thereby slowing the money-go-round by another notch :(

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11 years 6 months ago #358567 by Stikkibeek
Perhaps it's time to lobby our opposition MPs and promise them our vote next year if they scrap the whole sorry ACC thing and allow people to take out private work insurance.

Did you know, that what you thought I said, was not what I meant :S

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11 years 6 months ago #358583 by sod
Stikki thats what this lot are wanting to do again, BUT what about the nonearners who will cover them :) MAYBE ACC funded by????????????

Having time is a measure of enthusiasm:rolleyes:

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11 years 6 months ago #358587 by Organix
Scrapping ACC would have to include introducing the right to sue for personal injury, and we all know the result of that would be the malicious litigation industry that the US of A is notorious for :rolleyes:

ACC isn't a perfect system but it's a hell of a lot better than the alternative. The problem is that Nick Smith and co are trying to make it self funding FOR FUTURE CLAIMS out of current income and then feeding us BS statistics to justify their cost cutting. The cost cutting is in fact a window dressing exercise to make ACC look like a viable INSURANCE system. The replies that we received from ACC in reply to our submissions (a year ago!) against the levy rise were headed ACC Insurance ! This all about privatisation of ACC [:(!]

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11 years 6 months ago #358591 by DiDi
Organix - you have hit the nail on the head. The scary part about what is happening in NZ under National (or I guess it could be any Party) is that we no longer have an investigative reporters making an issue of these things i.e. keeping it on the front page, and people so overwelmed with just keeping their heads above water that they don't have time to do their own research into what is happening. Everytime something like this hits, we have cries of anger or terror in some cases as to how far they can stretch the bills and yet others of us have know for some time what is coming. May explain why I resigned from the national Party 12 months ago!

Wait until the 18% rate rises hit Auckland after the next election. Wait until we see what all these free trade agreements are going to cost us as the people of NZ. Is Key wanting to bankrupt this country for the good of the new world order? Just to put that in to perspective, there are 5 companies in the entire world who insure Insurance Companies. Did anyone else know that?

Yes Yakut - these "new" charges were published a while ago but it was yesterday's chip paper if you weren't on to it that day. Scary stuff when combined with the ACC transition to Insurance and the demise of cover for seemingly everyone and anyone no matter how many years you had been paying into it. Disgusting!

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11 years 6 months ago #358597 by PalmyCol
Yep you gotta love the new prices aye [xx(] I also ride a motorcycle and was part of the protest run to Wellington to try and stop the rises. Most non bike riders weren't too fussed about it but they seem to have been using the motorbikes as a test run for raising all the ACC levies and now I'm stung with the huge bike rego bill and having a diesel van I get a nice bill for that one to.

All part of Nationals plan to either fully or partly privatise ACC after the next election if people vote them in again. Not too much of a surprise National is trying to look after their buddies in big bussniess, it is what they have always done.


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11 years 6 months ago #358599 by DiDi
Just an interesting observation Col, as I said on another thread, I drove from South Auckland through to Milford and Mairangi Bay today, and back home via Orakei. It was many hours of driving given the accident just North of the harbour Bridge (took 30 mins to travel 1 km) and them the congestion on the Southern Motorway (another 30 mins added) and I saw ONE scooter all day. No motorbikes at all. Normally they are weaving up the lanes and I always move over in my lane to let them throught thinking "lucky buggars you go for it". Has it had that big an impact possibly?

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