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13 years 5 months ago #24804 by beedee
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Here seems to be a bit more damning evidence against the safeness of GM food
www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/12/monsan....html?ref=fb&src="sp

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13 years 5 months ago #349362 by LongRidge
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I wonder if they checked that there was no "zeareleone" in the samples. That is a poison caused by a fungal contamination, named "zea" because it was first found in maize. Until that is established then these results must be treated with some caution .... not ignored, but treated with care.
With all these studies it is important to remember that everyone who drinks water/Coka Cola/ whatever, is going to die, so it is statistically significant that anyone who drinks anything is going to die.

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13 years 4 months ago #349405 by Organix
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Humankind has a knack for making the synthetic 'equivalent' far more toxic than nature's original design. Tonight's Sunday program was warning of the problems being experienced by people's addictions to and lack of efficaciousness of opiods - man's sythetic copy of opiate painkillers. Synthetic pyrethroids are far more toxic and persistant than the pyrethrum (derived from a daisy) it is based on. And now Monsanto et al are sythesising plants on a genetic level [:0] Why am I not surprised - reductionist science at its 'best' :rolleyes:

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13 years 4 months ago #349761 by beedee
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golly gosh it gets even worse!!

'GM formula poses superbug risk' - medical researcher

1/10/2010 - Baby milk formula containing untested genetically modified ingredients poses a potential risk of creating antibiotic resistant superbugs, a leading medical researcher says.


Professor Peter Collignon, from the Australian National University medical school, says many GM foods contained antibiotic resistance genes which needlessly placed people, animals and the environment at a risk.
"Why expose the environment, animals, people to antibiotics resistance genes that could potentially be taken up by bacteria and develop superbug properties when we don't have to?" he said at a demonstration in front of Parliament House.
This was part of a Greenpeace campaign that has included supermarket sit-ins and a number of arrests after analysis of the popular infant formula S-26 revealed traces of GM soy and corn.
S-26 manufacturer Wyeth Nutrition says its soy product may contain traces of GM material but it is well below the Australian food standards level.
Professor Collignon said the risk to any individual was likely to be low but more significant across millions.
"We should not have antibiotic resistance genes multiplied up by crops growing the genes and having more risk to us for even more problems with superbugs when that is a risk that doesn't have to be taken," he said.
The Greens, back by Independent Senator Nick Xenophon plan to introduce legislation requiring food labelling to reveal GM content, allowing consumers to choose whether or not to buy products containing GM ingredients.
Greens Senator Rachel Siewert said mothers were buying infant formula, expecting it to be safe.
"Unbeknown to mothers and fathers they are feeding their children infant formula that has been contaminated," she said.
"Parents are not being informed so they can't makes choices as to whether want to buy that product or not."
Senator Xenophon said consumers were being treated like mushrooms on GM food ingredients, kept in the dark and feed rubbish.
"This has been exposed as a result of Greenpeace, a non-government organisation doing the testing. You have to ask what on earth have our food regulators responsible for food safety standards been doing," he said.
"Food Standards Australia New Zealand needs a kick up the backside for their lack of action on this."
Senator Xenophon said there were too many scientists and scientific papers saying GM health effects were unknown.
"And if you adopt the precautionary principle, as you should particularly ... when you are talking about infant formula, then consumers have a right to know, parents have a right to make an informed choice as to whether they buy a product with any GM contained in it at all," he said.

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13 years 4 months ago #349776 by igor
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I don't see the need for GM in the laboratory when many of the same advances can be, and have over the centuries been, made by selective breeding. It's just a dangerous shortcut.

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13 years 4 months ago #349778 by stephclark
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totally agree Igor.. ever since Mendelsen started playing with his peas, we have been modifiying everything.. from grain to stock.. not always to the best over all advantage, but to suit our needs.. this carries a burden of responsibilty to the animal we have ' created' but at least it was done over time.. giving none viable mutations time to die out and not enter food chain..

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13 years 4 months ago #349834 by Organix
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If you have interest in (and a fear of) where GE is heading us you owe yourself a read of " The Biotech Century " by Jeremy Rifkin. This very telling exposay of our expected future experience with Genetic Engineering, the mapping of the human genome, genetic superraces and many more chilling predictions was first published in 1999. Since reading this soon after its original release it is increasingly disturbing to see Jeremy's predictions become reality one after the other [B)]

If you want a reality check on where humans and our biological sciences are headed this is a must read [:0]

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13 years 4 months ago #349884 by PeterNZ
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stephclark;339392 wrote: totally agree Igor.. ever since Mendelsen started playing with his peas, we have been modifiying everything.. from grain to stock.. not always to the best over all advantage, but to suit our needs.. this carries a burden of responsibilty to the animal we have ' created' but at least it was done over time.. giving none viable mutations time to die out and not enter food chain..

This is often an argument pro-GMO. But it lacks logic to me. With cross breeding you do not introduce genetic material of a human being in to a pig. You still breed peas with peas. You still breed same breeds. You wouldn't breed an apple tree with a pumpkin, would you? Imagine one of the fruits falling on your head! [:0]

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13 years 4 months ago #349891 by stephclark
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hi Peternz..

sorry thats not what i meant.. certainly not trying to argue for interspecies gene splicing..road to disaster

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13 years 4 months ago #349898 by sod
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I think what Steph means is what we all do breed for what we want find a buull in a breed with no horns then a cow in that breed with no horns so breed together to get polled breed and so on and most do it all the time in one way or other I do. hope I'm right Steph

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13 years 4 months ago #349900 by PeterNZ
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Yes steph ,I know you didn't want to say that. I just thought I'll beat the people to it who will use it as pro-GMO. Sorry I didn't want to say that you used it in this way.

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