Clothing - Made in NZ Labelling

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11 years 10 months ago #24416 by Toast
Ongoing saga re labelling of my clothing. I thought I had it sorted but went to sell to a large department store and the accessories buyer told me that I couldn't put a Made in New Zealand label on my wool blend scarves & wraps because the fabric has been imported.

I have had huge troubles trying to find out about all this & thought I had done the right thing. I have content & care labels as well as the country of origin (made in new zealand).

I was a bit surprised at what this woman said. She also told me I had to get in touch with the Wool Board ..... now, we all know there's no such thing any more.

Anyway, where do I go to get the real information?

Also, what happened to the woolmark? I have a pair of very old merino long underwear which are 100% merino and they have the woolmark on them.

Any knowledgable comments will be greatly received. Thanks.

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11 years 10 months ago #344850 by PeterNZ
This is stupid! So Chinese companies are allowed to sell 100% Chinese made fashion and print "Designed in New Zealand" onto the label? And yours are truly made in New Zealand and you are not allowed to say so on your labels? Where is the basis for this? Since when does Made in New Zealand mean that 100% of all ingredients come from New Zealand. What about Whittacker chocolate? Do they now expect that the Cocoa beans for their Made in New Zealand chocolate are grown in New Zealand?

I will ask my wife when she is back from town. She worked in the fashion industry in NZ as a production manager and had her own label once. Maybe she can help you .

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11 years 10 months ago #344858 by Toast
I am not sure if this is actually correct. The buyer told me that if she had decided to buy from me I would be signing a contract saying that I would take all responsibility if the authorities checked on them & that I would be up for a $10,000 fine.

What I want to know is, who are the authorities & where are the rules in black & white?

I think the Made in New Zealand campaign is a bit misleading. Manufactured in New Zealand would be more to the point.

Very little wool is made in NZ now. There's the merino mill, Levana at Levin. However, a lot of merino wool is now being sent to Levana's factory in Prague and being sent back to Levin to be sold! Bet there are plenty of merino clothing manufacturers not declaring that!

There are a few specialist mills such as Stainsborough at Seaview, near Petone.

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11 years 10 months ago #344914 by ronnie
Perhaps you can get a label made staing "manufactured in NZ and may contain imported fabric" or something along those lines ?????

I'm not sure which authority you can contact to find out about these things - as you say, there is no longer a Wool Board. Hopefully, Peter's wife will have something more useful for you.

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11 years 10 months ago #344937 by max2
We have been having a bad experience with mens 11- 13 white socks since arriving here, so for Fathers day, E & I bought canterbury socks for the SOH on Sunday plus a couple of RIOS etc which you sort of expect to fall apart anyhow...

So SOH sits in bed on Sunday with E bringing in her pressie, lo and behold Canterbury socks one pair made in NZ, the other China. No differences apart from the fainter logo...but same price regardless.[:(!] shite if I wanted to buy china stuff I would go to the warehouse.

I want to buy made in NZ stuff!!!!!!!!

Reminds me when Mum bought me an Aussie designer label (and I do mean designer label) dress for my formal.
She (not being a domestic sort) cut off all the odd bits of thread and posted back to designer, no response.

And they have to wonder why the population departs them during recession times.....

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11 years 10 months ago #344966 by kiwi_jon
Under the Fair Trading regulations all Clothing and Footware must have Country of Origin label sewn or attached to the item showing where the item was made or produced.

www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/publi...whole.html#DLM169623

Toast, in your case I believe you are correct. Your product is made and produced in NZ therefore must have a 'Made in New Zealand' tag. It doesn't matter that some of the content of the item is produced by imported product it is the finished product that counts.

I think your shop buyer may be confusing 'Made in New Zealand' labeling with 'Product of New Zealand' labeling which is a totally different kettle of fish.

I suggest that you, if you haven't already, talk to someone at the Commerce Commision.

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11 years 10 months ago #344982 by Mich
How frustrating for you, Toast. I also believe you're correct - hope you can get the clarification you need very soon.

Re Stansborough - there was an article in the Hutt News recently saying that the Eldridges have had to close down the retail side of the business, and are battling to save their antique looms and keep the manufacturing side of the business going. Such a monumental shame if they can't - their products are just glorious, they're lovely people and they still have many overseas markets buying their products.
Cheers, Mich.

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11 years 9 months ago #344993 by Toast
Thanks, Mich. Will contact Consumer Affairs today.

I am not surprised re Stansborough. Manufacturing clothing in NZ is tough. Their problem will be the economy. Theirs are luxury & tourist items & that spending has dropped away hugely.

I supply goods to NZique (formerly Craftworld) in Petone & they've just sent out a vendor newsletter saying winter trading had been unspectacular & spending has been cautious - more $25-60 items than the $50-100 seen in pre-recession days but lots of them.

One of the Cambridge shops said they were flat out at Christmas but it was all $20 items and they offer a gift wrapping service! She said they were exhausted.

Hopefully Stansborough will survive.

Ronnie - I won't be getting more labels! I used the existing label design when I bought the business & once I had sorted out the legal side of the labelling I went ahead & ordered very tasteful, practical embroidered labels which clearly elevated the look of the garment. The investment was in the region of $1000 (incl GST I think). The care & content labels are the cheaper white papery fabric & we sew them into the side-seam - I wasn't prepared to get the embroidered ones as I have four different sets of labels, one for each type of fabric.

I have a skivvie here with Manufactured in New Zealand on it. Perhaps that's what we should have been encouraged to do instead of all this made in NZ stuff which is a misnomer.

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11 years 9 months ago #345011 by igor
Many years ago I bought a pair of trousers in Sydney. They were labelled "Made in New Zealand". I bought another pair of the same brand, same style, same colour in New Zealand and they were labelled "Made in Australia". Figure that one out.

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11 years 9 months ago #345017 by PeterNZ
Sorry Talked to my wife yesterday and she is sorry but all her documentation is still packed in boxes from our move. (Low priority!) But you already got good advice here.

My wife says it is complete BS. There are no fabric mills in New Zealand at least no bigger ones. So all clothes would then be not allowed to carry a Made in New Zealand label? Because they all use fabric form overseas. I don't think so.

On the other note I know of European companies who manufacture in China and then get e.g. shirts send to Germany without buttons, They attach the buttons and then say "Made in Germany" .

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11 years 9 months ago #345039 by ronnie

Toast;334023 wrote: I supply goods to NZique (formerly Craftworld) in Petone & they've just sent out a vendor newsletter saying winter trading had been unspectacular & spending has been cautious - more $25-60 items than the $50-100 seen in pre-recession days but lots of them.


How do you find these guys?? I used to supply Craftworld at the 2 Auckland shops a couple of years ago - interesting excercise.

Do you pay a monthly fee for a booth? or do you just pay a % of sales? I did both and I know which one I prefer.

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11 years 9 months ago #345064 by Toast
Commerce Commission - read some of the regs this morning. Found a lot on Google which wasn't available when I was looking for info when I first started out. I rang their office & they told me they are an enforcement agency & don't give advice, except for, "..... get a lawyer ....."!

Here's the rule I'm probably breaching:

"Goods described as being made in one place when they are made up of pieces made in several different countries." - illegal.

I would have been happy to have some labels with Manufactured in New Zealand on if I had known. I might get some cheap ones made up.

Craftworld - $84.40 per month booth rental (smallest) and then 10% +GST on sales. Auckland shop at Westgate only has the double sized booths so is about $119.

They've been very good to me. They've put some of my stuff in a spare booth. Some of my wraps are quite large so not the best place for them.

Did ok late October through to about March - nothing spectacular but definitely made money. Since then dribs & drabs. Not economic over the winter but that's understandable in the economic climate. Will keep it going. At least it's making some money for me. I think I've cleared well over $1000 (after tax) for the year I've had stock there. It's easy-care once you are set up in there. Can't say no to $1000.

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11 years 9 months ago #345095 by PeterNZ

Toast;334100 wrote: Commerce Commission - [...] I rang their office & they told me they are an enforcement agency & don't give advice, except for, "..... get a lawyer ....."!

This is ridiculous and makes me angry. Same as NZFSA. They say "You need to follow the rules" and if you ask "So what are the rules?" they say "Oh we do not tell you!" What a frickin' load of bollocks! Sorry! [:I]

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