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13 years 6 months ago #22951 by kalnetta
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I have been diagnosed as being lactose intolerant!and have been waiting for an appointment with a dietician at the public hospital for just on three weeks.
I am at a bit of a loss as to what biscuits and cakes that I can eat most other things I can work around.
Any help would be great.

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13 years 6 months ago #328684 by cowvet
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As it is due to a deficiency of the enzyme lactase you need to knock out anything that contains milk sugars (lactose)...so pretty much anything that includes milk products until you see the dietician


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13 years 6 months ago #328708 by Simkin
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Hi kalnetta,

welcome to the club:rolleyes:

I can eat good cheeses, cultured butter and the expensive natural yoghurts but not the cheese that comes in blocks and the yoghurt that comes in little pottles. Also most supermarket butter is out, too. No cream and no milk, no milk powder either.

Good cheeses are left to ferment until all the lactose is made into lactase but the cheap stuff (cheese, butter and yoghurt) is sold before that has happened.

I haven't eaten packet biscuits for at least a decade - most of those have milk powder added. Also most breads have milk powder added. You have to get into a habit of reading the small print, even if it means taking glasses to the supermarket. First shopping trip will take a long time but there are alternative products that are acceptable. Also no chocolate :(

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13 years 6 months ago #328719 by Isla
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What happens to you if you are lactose intolerant? How did you know? It must be a tough problem when most of us grew up drinking milk.

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13 years 6 months ago #328721 by DrVee
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Isla;315198 wrote: What happens to you if you are lactose intolerant? How did you know? It must be a tough problem when most of us grew up drinking milk.


Chronic diarrhoea is generally the most common symptom, but gas (both up and down!!) , rumbly tummy, generally feeling like crud etc can occur etc etc. And probably some other symptoms.....

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Nah, just shoot it.......

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13 years 6 months ago #328740 by beedee
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I have the added Dairy allergy, so take care when reading the label as casein is often hidden in food to add the protein % and they claim that isnt lactose [which it isnt but can have the same effects] the only cheese I can tolerate is Edam, it has next to nil amount of lactose and other proteins are missing.
Isla,For me I have up to 3 wks of polyarthralgia and basically can get so bad unable to walk when its affecting the ankle and knee joints.. havent snuck an icecream for about 10yrs now.
Butter used to be OK as it only had the fat, but now they are mixing milk powder into it so that is also out.Oh and soup mixes need a good check also, they throw milk powder into lots of them .. tho more the flour.. aaarrrrgghhh

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13 years 6 months ago #328743 by Xartep
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Griffins Gingernuts used to be dairy free, but not so sure now, always, always read the ingredient list.

Whey powder is a nono, so look for this.

Most breads have dairy products (milk powder or whey), bread DOES NOT require this.

Olive and Rice Bran oils are good butter substitutes, generally replace weight for weight in baking, omit any milk powder (it is usually 1-2 tablespoons so not significant) replace some fat with pureed apple or pear, reduce sugar if doing this.

I have a really nice muffin recipe that I will dig out for you if you like. Yum Yum and good for your tum [;)]

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13 years 6 months ago #328761 by OakhengeFarm
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The dietician should point you to this, but have a look at www.mfd.co.nz - it's the manufactured food database, put out by the Auckland Hospital dieticians. It contains a list of manufactured food, free from milk, gluten, peanuts or egg.

It's a brilliant resource, and saves heaps of time reading labels in the supermarket.

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13 years 6 months ago #328769 by DiDi
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Brilliant link OakhengeFarm - saved to Favourites. One of my daughters was Dairy intolerant as a baby and I changed her to Soy Milk. Interested to see Soy still on the list for infant formula as subsequent medical research linked Soy to female infertility. I have felt guilty all my life and won't know the answer until she starts trying for a baby. Anyone know any different, please let me know.

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13 years 6 months ago #328770 by Xartep
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OakhengeFarm;315243 wrote: The dietician should point you to this, but have a look at www.mfd.co.nz - it's the manufactured food database, put out by the Auckland Hospital dieticians. It contains a list of manufactured food, free from milk, gluten, peanuts or egg.

It's a brilliant resource, and saves heaps of time reading labels in the supermarket.

WOW - no time right now, but will be passing it on to my numerous friends who are Dairy or Gluten free :D :D

Thanks you

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13 years 6 months ago #328771 by Xartep
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DiDi;315251 wrote: Brilliant link OakhengeFarm - saved to Favourites. One of my daughters was Dairy intolerant as a baby and I changed her to Soy Milk. Interested to see Soy still on the list for infant formula as subsequent medical research linked Soy to female infertility. I have felt guilty all my life and won't know the answer until she starts trying for a baby. Anyone know any different, please let me know.


I think the biggest question with soy is that we can't be sure that it isn't GM.

It is a major part of many Asian diets and that doesn't seem to affect their fertility. My thoughts on this is that we in the western world don't process it properly. (this is just IMHO BTW)[;)]

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13 years 6 months ago #328773 by Ronney
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DrVee;315200 wrote: Chronic diarrhoea is generally the most common symptom, but gas (both up and down!!) , rumbly tummy, generally feeling like crud etc can occur etc etc. And probably some other symptoms.....


Sounds horribly familiar :( except that after years of putting up with this I accidentaly discovered that it was bread that was doing it. So cut out all bread, noodles, pasta etc. and things improved. A biscuit seems acceptable, as does small amounts of flour as one might use for fish, schnitzel, or sauces. That was back in February and life has been somewhat more pleasant. Self-diagnosis is all very well but the next step is to have a test.

That is gluten intolerance but are the symptoms similar to those of lactose intolerance? I can certainly sympathise with people who have these intolerances. Feeling like crud, spending half the day on the toilet, being caught short in town, the middle of paddocks, the cowshed...... is no fun.

Cheers,
Ronnie

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13 years 6 months ago #328785 by Simkin
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Xartep;315253 wrote: I think the biggest question with soy is that we can't be sure that it isn't GM.

It is a major part of many Asian diets and that doesn't seem to affect their fertility. My thoughts on this is that we in the western world don't process it properly. (this is just IMHO BTW)[;)]

Xartep - in the Asian diet soy only ever is used in a fermented form and it is never fed to infants. Our eldest son had soy milk from 7 months onwards and he developed breast buds. Paediatrician asked 'did you feed him soy milk?' when he saw him. It is a very common occurrence and like DiDi I feel so so bad about this. Nobody told me, Plunket nurse was full of praise for soy milk and you can't turn back time. What's done is done.

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13 years 6 months ago #328786 by kindajojo
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while in Aussie the other week they had a programme on dairy intolerance and that A2 milk was ok for some people who were dairy intolerant. The proteins were different. I dont know if we get A2 here ...I just get the budget milk given the quatity we use.

Also the Azalea Grape seed Oil have a brilliant banana cake and carrot cake that use grape seed oil instead of butter and no dairy products.

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13 years 6 months ago #328793 by OakhengeFarm
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My family have a history of lactose and gluten intolerance. The two often go together. Apparently, if you are gluten intolerant, the damage done to the intestine by gluten can allow the lactose to slip through the wall of the gut into the bloodstream - "leaky gut syndrome". If you take gluten out of the diet, you should be able to tolerate some milk.

We have been buying Liddels lactose free milk (found in tetrapak cartons near the soy milk in the supermarket). It has had the enzyme lactase added to it - this is the one many people are missing to digest the lactose. It tastes slightly sweet as a result, but has none of the snotty mucus filled side effects of normal milk. You can also buy lactase in capsule or chewable form in most health shops.

However, we have recently started drinking raw A2 milk. We have not yet determined whether it is the raw (not pasteurised) aspect or the A2 that's made the difference, but I can happily drink a glassful and not reach for the tissues!

11 acres (4 in QEII Covenanted native bush), 15 sheep, 2 beefies, large vege gardens and a goat, and still no dog!:(

Oh, and uncountable wild birds - including fantails, swallows, yellowhammers, morepork, magpies, hawks, pukekos, and even quaill, pheasants and rainbow lorikeets [:D][:D] Not to mention possums, hares, rabbits, rats...

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