Dementia rules.. mailwasher help needed

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12 years 7 months ago #20902 by beedee
I have downloaded mailwasher, cos I am fed up with the spam forever wanting my money , details ,or how to help with boredom!!
BUT I would like to put the mailwasher onto that part where all the little icons are sitting waiting at the beginning and I can just click and get it going..
step by step wot do I have to do.. etc etc. I now think I have eliminated the chance of reading my E's until I have sorted it out, think I worked a bit backwards..
I hate being a 40's child and not having computer abilities as part of the birthing package deal

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12 years 7 months ago #305694 by sod
Know that feeling and for same reason :D

Having time is a measure of enthusiasm:rolleyes:

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12 years 7 months ago #305699 by kiwi_jon

beedee;289669 wrote: I have downloaded mailwasher, cos I am fed up with the spam forever wanting my money , details ,or how to help with boredom!!
BUT I would like to put the mailwasher onto that part where all the little icons are sitting waiting at the beginning and I can just click and get it going..
step by step wot do I have to do.. etc etc. I now think I have eliminated the chance of reading my E's until I have sorted it out, think I worked a bit backwards..
I hate being a 40's child and not having computer abilities as part of the birthing package deal


I assume you are talking about adding the icon to the Quick Launch at the left hand side of the Task Bar.

To add the icon just click on the icon and drag it in to the Quick Launch Bar

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12 years 7 months ago #305701 by beedee
No I havent got as far as the icon.. or how to now access mailwasher with all my email in it!!!!!! that is about click 30 I would presume ;((

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12 years 7 months ago #305707 by kiwi_jon
First things first. Mailwasher is a tool to help eliminate spam from being downloaded from your mailbox at your ISP into your mail client (Outlook Express, Outlook, Windows Mail, Thunderbird etc) on your PC. It does not stop spam from being received by your email address. You still have to manually select which emails are spam and which are not. Mailwasher does learn over time which mail is spam and which isn't.

To use Mailwasher you need to click on the Mailwasher icon to run the program. Mailwasher will open and show the emails sitting in your mailbox at the ISP, based on the accounts you set up or selected when you installed Mailwasher. You now go through the emails and select which ones are spam and which are not. Mailwasher does a pretty good job of selecting which ones are spam but you need to double check.

When you have done that you click the Process Mail button. This will open up your Mail Client and download the emails that you have selected as not spam in Mailwasher. The spam ones are deleted from the mailbox.

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12 years 7 months ago #305715 by ame
If you used Thunderbird you wouldn't need MailWasher. Thunderbird has a (trainable) spam filter built in.

If you used GMail you wouldn't need MailWasher or Thunderbird.

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12 years 7 months ago #305793 by beedee
Umm I keep getting this .....the operation timed out -no response was received from the server....... yes I had 8 Emails awaiting me.
Ame I have gmail for my other life, and yahoo for another, but keep the OE for family/private, and that is the one that all the spam is coming in on.. I have informed rural link, they get a sample every few weeks, and some can be forwarded or some get blocked.. which annoys me, cos surely if it gets blocked by their spam watchdog, then they should be blocking me, cos I pay enuf $$$
Is thunderbird easy to use.. in otherwords will it know how to find my email and watch it for me!

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12 years 7 months ago #305828 by ame
Having Outlook Express just for 'family/private' is a meaningless statement. OE will pull your email from anywhere you tell it to, so you could fetch your Gmail, Yahoo, and the other one all into OE. To be honest this is probably a smart move.

Thunderbird *is* easy to use (esp. for me, except that I don't use it). It's free, and you can just try it to see if you like it. It is better than OE because it uses open standards.

The problem you have with OE could be a username/password error or a typo in the name of your mail server.

"will it know how to find my email and watch it for me"

No. Only you know where your email is, but once you have configured Thunderbird to fetch it you can turn on the "Read my email" option. Thunderbird will read the content of each message and decide if it's boring or interesting (you can set the "Interest Meter" slider to the level of boringness you are willing to tolerate). Once you have done this, Thunderbird will drink coffee and read your email. If it thinks something that you receive is interesting it will pop up a message box saying "Hey, this looks interesting. According to ..." followed by a summary of the message, together with an opinion (or pithy quote) relevant to the content.

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12 years 7 months ago #305891 by Toast
Hope all goes ok with this for you.

Now you are allowed to laugh at me.

I saw your post heading - Dementia rules - mailwasher help needed. I honestly thought you must have been looking after an elderly person who has dementia & that it was becoming too difficult for you to wash them & you were calling for help with that!

I live on my own & work from home on my own! I'm endeavouring to be up-to-date, but I don't have spam troubles.

I'm on satellite & while it's nowhere near as slow as the dreaded dial-up, I am sometimes reluctant to open posts because of the time factor.

Hopefully you will get your problems all sorted out soon & have no more spam!

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12 years 7 months ago #305934 by beedee
With Ame telling me my set up is a meaningless statement.. I realise that maybe I was asking the wrong place for help.. so have gone to my ISP or is that IPS... what ever....... life is now worse, they suggested sumfink and I made a typo [I guess] now I have no direct contact with the world for the E mails and have to go to my internet to retrieve..
so waiting to find out what to put back into the little boxes and will just get all the awful spam stuff.. Just not used to it, I had been clear until the past 6mths and now its about 6 per day.
I dare not do anything else..
No I am not laughing.. many of the statements on here could have double meanings, and some are intentional as we know... and others not.. but that surely would have been a malewasher!!!!!!!
So I nearly have fixed the spam problem.. just no messages at all now!!!

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12 years 7 months ago #305937 by Organix
Spam? What's that? :D

Between MailWasher and the filters my ISP provides I don't see any, and don't seem to be missing anything I should be receiving. I had Thunderbird operating for my work email account and found it lacked features that I considered necessary (font, formatting, etc.) so haven't bothered with it since finishing there.

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12 years 7 months ago #305990 by ame

beedee;289942 wrote: With Ame telling me my set up is a meaningless statement..

Sorry, I apologise for that. My meaning was not clear.

Currently you have three email accounts.

1) At Yahoo!, accessed by webmail
2) At GMail, accessed by webmail
3) At your ISP, accessed by Outlook Express

My point was that you could easily bring all three email sources into Outlook Express. You can use OE to access your ISP mail, Yahoo! and GMail, either independently or together. You can press one button and it will fetch mail from all three accounts and put it in your inbox. You can do this with ThunderBird too. IMHO ThunderBird is better than OE anyway, and has a built-in spam fitler, so you wouldn't need MailWasher.

To understand why MailWasher is not working you must first understand what email is, and *where* it is.

Email messages are just files. They move around automatically between mail servers on the internet until they reach their destination. The destination is usually the ISP (think of Google and Yahoo! as ISPs). If you read your email with webmail then the messages stay there (at the ISP). If you use POP to fetch your email (as you do with OE) then there is one final step of moving the email from the ISP to your computer. You have now complicated this last step a little by introducing MailWasher. As far as I can see, MailWasher sits between your mail program and your ISP. When you click 'check mail' your mail program asks MailWasher to get your email instead of connecting to your ISP directly. Your problem is probably the settings in MailWasher- you need to specify the ISP's POP server name, and the username and password that you use to get your ISP mail. MailWasher should have picked this up automagically, but maybe it didn't. I looked at the MailWasher help page, but it wasn't actually very helpful.

Anyway, in your situation you have to do three different things to read your mail from three different sources. You either log into Yahoo!, log into GMail, or press the 'check mail' button on OE. To my mind it is meaningless to separate these, since it is all email, and it's all for you. Keeping them separate means you have to access them in three different ways, whereas technology exists to bring them all together, either in OE, or in Thunderbird. Similarly, when you send a message you can choose whether you wish the message to appear to be from your Yahoo! account, GMail account or ISP account.

Furthermore, you can do the same thing in GMail. You can make GMail fetch mail from Yahoo! and your ISP and put everything into your GMail inbox. This has two advantages. One, your email is all in one place. Two, *all* of your mail will go through Google's spam filter, so you wouldn't need MailWasher or Thunderbird's spam filter. The point of my comment was to make you think about this possibility, which would make things easy for you.

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12 years 7 months ago #305993 by jerry leadbetter

ame;290005 wrote:

My point was that you could easily bring all three email sources into Outlook Express. You can use OE to access your ISP mail, Yahoo! and GMail, either independently or together. You can press one button and it will fetch mail from all three accounts and put it in your inbox. You can do this with ThunderBird too. IMHO ThunderBird is better than OE anyway, and has a built-in spam fitler, so you wouldn't need MailWasher.


ooh, that sounds good - how do you do this? I'd really like for my gmail to be pulled into our home Outlook set-up, but straight into my private folder - can that happen and how do I do it?

Thanks,

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12 years 7 months ago #305998 by ame
It's pretty simple really. I did a Google search for "outlook express multiple accounts" and got some useful hits.

Here's one that seems pretty comprehensive:

http://www.ezlinx.net/support/outlook/Multiple.html

You should research a little more to make sure you are familiar with what's going to happen, but key words are 'Rules' (to move the mail to the right folder) and 'Identities' (to set the name on the outgoing message).

You can do this with OE, but I still recommend ThunderBird.

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