Thoughts on halloween?

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14 years 6 months ago #302971 by sod
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We are down a long drive with stock and dogs, can't see house from road so havn't got any as yet and just as well, we don't want anything to do with it bahh humbug!!!!!

Having time is a measure of enthusiasm:rolleyes:

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14 years 6 months ago #302974 by Kiwi303
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The Church at Kawhia took the view that Halloween is just an enactment of a pagan ritual and so rather than have the church kids out doing ungodly things, they organised a yearly slumber party overnight on halloween night where all the kids had a BBQ/bonfire and singalong at the church hall and then activities until bed. It kept them off the streets, hymns instead of observing pagan rites, and was a fun bonding social evening instead of annoying people.

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14 years 6 months ago #302999 by Leeanne
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I think its a waste of time and money I wont let my kids do it.

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14 years 6 months ago #303001 by OakhengeFarm
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Excellent description Jen. I wholeheartedly agree! When we lived in town, I decided that I would only give a treat to a kid that could tell me what they were doing and why. Not one had any clue of the history behind Halloween - and I was willing to accept pretty vague ideas. One didn't even use the word Hallowe'en - he just called it "Trick or Treat night", and didn't know anything about what even that meant!

Our new farm is 400 metres off a rural road, and not even those invited here can find us without instructions, so we were blissfully unbothered this year.

11 acres (4 in QEII Covenanted native bush), 15 sheep, 2 beefies, large vege gardens and a goat, and still no dog!:(

Oh, and uncountable wild birds - including fantails, swallows, yellowhammers, morepork, magpies, hawks, pukekos, and even quaill, pheasants and rainbow lorikeets [:D][:D] Not to mention possums, hares, rabbits, rats...

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14 years 6 months ago #303019 by Seaside
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My first 7 years of life were in Toronto so as kids we did halloween with bells on! I have some great memories of wonderful costumes, houses decked out, turning our basement into a spooky ghost house. We always had an adult with us when trick or treating, the whole city would be one big pumpkin-themed party. So I think fondly of halloween.

However, in NZ it is very half-cocked and the 'spirit' of it that you have in Canada and the US is lacking. It's a thing that everyone or no-one has to do. Half and half doesn't work.

So I don't agree with trick or treating in NZ. However, most years we have a halloween party for the kids (we did this year). We all dress up and do traditional games for them - eating a doughnut on a string with hands behind your back, apple bobbing, pumpkin bowling, this year we did a ghost train lolly scramble. We made halloween themed food - devil eggs (the same as devilled eggs, but spooky), green hokey pokey. Served bloody Marys for the adults. Was the most fun we've had as a family in a long time, and hopefully something the kids will remember.

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14 years 6 months ago #303026 by Jack
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Gidday

It's just plain evil.

Nothing less than evil.

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14 years 6 months ago #303060 by Azza
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I don't like imported traditions either.
I even hesitate to do Christmas but because it's important to some of my family I play along. I did draw the line last year when we went to [english] friends' place for Christmas and they wanted us to bring soup. Soup? It was 35 degrees Celsius!

I think we need to recognize that we live on the other side of the world and we should discard northern hemisphere traditions and have our own. Maybe Calf Day should be a public holiday?

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14 years 6 months ago #303065 by Kilmoon
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Hehehe, I completely forgot that it was on and was laying behind an internal fence on our drive (facing away from the road) with my .22 (and new bipod) waiting for the bunny to come out in our front paddock. Heard a few vehicles turnaround behind me and some kids voices but didn't think anything about it....I was entitled to lay on my drive with a gun! Didn't think till later when hubby mentioned that from the road I could be seen :D :D . I was well inside our gates which are set about 20m away from the road.

Got the bunny too, a range of over 100m..gonna measure it because hubby says no, not that long, I say 'yes' it is. Not a shot he would have taken, but I regularly out-distance him on shots.

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14 years 6 months ago #303237 by NZ Appaloosas
Hmmm, other than "Waitangi Day", I don't see anything BUT imported holidays being celebrated here...

Diane, who finished the last of the candy corn last night.


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14 years 6 months ago #303240 by Telly
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NZA, the point is that 'celebrating' Halloween is a very recent import - in the last 10 or so years - and has largely been instigated by a large chain store through its advertising. Celebrating Christmas, Easter, Guy Fawkes (though I would personally rather see Matariki celebrated and have our fireworks at a much more sensible time of year) etc are much more part of our heritage. I didn't have a problem with my children going to a private party, especially given the background of the hosts.

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14 years 6 months ago #303254 by NZ Appaloosas
Not really--hubby remembers Halloween being celebrated by the folk at Harewood, and they've been gone at least 10 years...Operation Deep Freeze was all closed up by the time I came over for a visit in early 2000.

Seaside is right in that the proper "spirit" for Halloween seems to be lacking here, which is probably why y'all find it objectionable. In my neck of the woods, Halloween was the forebearer of Autumn and Winter...you knew that Thanksgiving was in about 4 weeks time, which meant a 4-day weekend from school, followed by Christmas a month later...it is when the fires started being lit in the fireplaces, dads took down the old-fashioned popper and make popcorn, taties were scrunched in tin foil and cooked in the fire embers under the grating, and best of all, the new season of apples and apple cider (only available during the fall) had started. Indian corn festooned everyone's mailboxes and/or front doors, cornhusk figures and dad's old clothing stuffed with the last of the grass clippings (yay, no more lawn mowing until spring!) stuffed into them to make a body.

Yes, Halloween meant dealing with strangers, and yes, there are weirdos who do things like put glass slivers in candy, but to counter that, many towns have "main street" parades, where the kids get dressed up, and trick-or-treat up and down the main street at the business/shops. Which, of course, are usually decorated appropriately anyway. :D

Halloween has nothing to do with "hallowe'en"...it has absolutely everything to do with enjoying kids getting dressed up in fun/"scary" (even when not) costumes, and 'braving' the world in hopes of getting a treat. It's a time when families are out as one--older siblings usually assisting the younger (unless there's not much space between them, agewise), one parent walking with the kid, the other driving the car ever so slowly alongside, the excitement as the kids "show off" their treats, and compare their loot to each other, making trades for faves.

And for the just-turned-teen kids, the whole Haunted House thing was just an excuse to be able to grab the arm of the person you liked without being patently "obvious" about liking him/'her. LOL

Halloween, like any other holiday, is exactly what you make of it...good, bad or indifferent. I'm just ecstatic I got candy corn to help celebrate Halloween this year! :D Now, this whole Christmas stuff being out and available already is weirding me out...it is way too soon! But with no Thanksgiving Day (well, weekend after) to markthe "official" start to Christmas decorating, finding the right starting point is a tad hard, I guess.

Diane


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14 years 6 months ago #303282 by drifter
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We celebrated it as children Here in the old BOP. The Catholic Church put on amazing parties every year. One year my brother went dressed as a devil, the Nuns giggled thinking it was very apt. I'm a grandmother now, so pretty sure that it was more than ten years ago that we were celebrating.[;)]

I put on parties for my kids. We had a great time with spooky food and games.

I don't like the trick or treating, only because we don't seem to have the right enthusiasm for it as givers or receivers.

Those that keep saying it's an imported American festival should IMHO do a little more research:rolleyes:

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14 years 6 months ago #303287 by devan
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I had a blast! Dressed up in a rather indecent red devils dress, drank copious amounts of vodka and got chatted up by a very gorgeous 25 year old all night :D Nothing wrong with that tradition i reckon lol

The trouble with some women is that they get all excited about nothing,and then they marry him.

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14 years 6 months ago #303365 by Jen - Featherston

drifter;286956 wrote: Those that keep saying it's an imported American festival should IMHO do a little more research:rolleyes:


Hey drifter, I am not saying its an imported American festival, it is an Irish (celtic/European) festival that the English Christians turned into something that it was not in order to devalue the Pagan rite. The American commercialism of this festival enhances the negativity that was put on this time and quite frankly I just feel sad when I see people running around in costumes with no clue to the history of what they are celebrating.

Not only with no clue as to what they are celebrating, but with no understanding they are perpetuating the mistruth.

If people want to dress up, and knock on doors for candy fine, but please dont perpetuate the lie, call it something else.

Sometimes its not only what you say, its the way you say it that counts.

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14 years 6 months ago #303368 by Storey Cottage
We went out with the kids as I did when I was a kid...all but one of our rural neighbours (from all countries including NZ!!!) enjoyed the visit by the kids and had lollies / treats a plenty...except one who told them to "bugger off he didnt do it" If the kids hadnt been present I would have taken thoise words and gently forced [B)] them back down his throat....

Please Dont object to the event simply because you object to the commercialism of it!!! Guess we will all be moaning about Guy Fawkes next??? Which just like Halloween is not an American thing.....

I should of just bought a bigger mower.....

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