i am so P***D off right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dont schools think we have enough problems to deal with our teens than to slap a total ZERO tollerance on make up at school [!]

My teens are 14 and almost 17 and they dont cake it on, it is very little in my opinion, mineral foundation just to even out the texture on the face and then a little mascara, i ALWAYS make sure they are not caked in it but had a call today about youngest teen and her make up, i tell you i checked her before she left as we planned to see what if anything was said today, and it was....honeslty you could hardly see any sign of it at all..and no she didnt re-apply, she leaves it all over her bloomin room []

SO as of next week new rule

Make up = 8am detention...WTF.....that means that i have to get up and get them out of the house for 7am to enable them to get to school on time...this is punishment for me not them and i know it is supposed to make us stick by the school but come on...its not like they are writing on the walls in school or smashing windows...they are just being youg ladies ....i tell you i am this close to pulling them both out!!

They are good students, they cause no trouble (elsdest one used to but has not done for over 2 years now, thank goodness)

This is a all girls catholic school and i want them to have disipline but this takes the P**S in my opinion

Am i alone here, do you guys have stupid rules at your kids schools?

I home-schooled so our family could please ourselves as to what the kids wore while they did their lessons. Sometimes I think the school rules get too precious to be put up with. Most sensible kids are willing to tow the line with sensible rules, but the rules about things which have no bearing on a kids ability to learn, make no sense to me. Kids are individuals and teenage kids need a little leeway to express their individuality. Things like a little bit of make-up or the way they do their hair, is a personal choice. As long as its not over the top, or endangers their health, I think they should be allowed to wear their choices. They soon grow out of the weird fashions that they come up with. Its part of growing up.

One of our Sons wanted to dye his hair blue and I thought, well why not. So I bought him some hair dye and he had a go at using it. It wasn't very effective at colouring his hair, but it got fad out of his system.

Now he wears a beard to be different. I expect that that will go in the long run as well. If the way he wears his head hair and facial hair is the limit of his 'teenage rebellious stage' then I count my blessings.

Kids should be allowed to grow up in stages. You can't just be heavy with the rules until they're 18, then say, right, you're an adult, you can now please yourself what you do. A lot of them can't handle the 'freedom' and go haywire. They need little increments of becoming more adult, so that in time, when they've learnt to handle the extra freedom, they can move into the adult world, with enough self-restraint, that they don't ruin their lives by overdosing on alcohol, drugs and spending too much money. Strict rules can have the opposite affect of making kids more rebelious than they would have been, if the rules were kept to a minimum and were aids to helping them get along with their fellow students and their teachers. In other words, rules that really matter.

Guess you need to work out as a family, whether you want to put up with the rules in your present school, or do the girls want to change to a different school? It is your family's choice, when it all boils down to it.

Maybe the Pope has PC police monitoring the school lmao. no really if the make up is not caked and not too highly visable, then hey lighten up I would say to the school. The world is just so so PC now. I feel for you mate, I'm so glad mine are all past their school years.

Westermans;247496 wrote: This is a all girls catholic school and i want them to have disipline but this takes the P**S in my opinion

Maybe its teaching them that rules are rules and not an optional extra? [}] and that they can't pick and chose what rules they stick to? Catholic schools have always had pretty strict rules about stuff like that.

To be the Devil's advocate on this one...what does it teach them when their parents let them break rules that they agreed to when they decided to send their kids there? Assuming that this rule was laid out alongside all the other rules about uniform and behaviour etc that you knew about before you enrolled them...[]

MDs school has riles(was going to change this spelling mistake to rules, but I think it is a very apt name for it ) coming out of their ears!! They are very strict on hair not touching the collar! Pain in the arse, but them's the rules, gotta stick to them unfortunately!

I am totally with the school and tigger on this one. Rules are rules.

I'm suprised you are so defensive about it. Hell... having raised two girls, you wait until you discover the change of clothes and makeup in their bags when they are just going to visit friends! The times they tell you there will be parents at the party they want to go to and suddenly go quiet when you ask them for the phone number and address. If you haven't been there already with your older one - lucky you!

I have to say, why wear makeup to school? It might be nice to get scrubbed up for a weekend event, but why bother just to go to school! I don't understand why you're so angry about it.

I'm afraid to say it but I'm with the school on this one too.

I dont see why girls have to wear makeup to school. What happens when they have PE and they work up a sweat, does the mascara run down their face, etc. I am also with the school, rules are rules ...

Why wear make up to school...cos they are teenagers and thats what mine do im affraid and i know there are many out there who just dont...i never wear make up unless i am off for a night out so its not like they see me dolled up all the time...its just they way they are
They have wore make up to that school for over 2 years Tigger and all of a sudden it has gone zero tollerane..that is my problem...if was from the start then fine...but it is a tough call and i like to pick my battles and this is not mine im affraid.
My girls will stick with the rules as that is what I teach them, and i have told them if they disobay the school then they will pay for a taxi between them to get them there...as i will not!!
Didi i am really fortunate to have gained a great relationship with the eldest teen, we went through shit at 15 years old with her but she came out the other side a really great young lady...i know she parties..i have no problem with that, i know where she is as i have the contacts at home with me, she always tells me where she is heading and if that changes she tells me...very honest kid...now the youngest....she will bring me sooo much trouble for sure,..dark as the night and as deep as the ocean
PE...dont make me laugh, its not enforced in school...and mine just dont do it..sad i know!
I was angry about it..i had just got off the phone when i wrote it...maybe i should have had a cuppa then posted...lol...i do not want my girls to think they can change rules so they will go bare but i feel for them i really do, if someone took my work clothes from me and told me i could no longer wear them i would be gutted

Westie - fake (face) tan, and tinted eyebrows/lashes. Both you can do at home.

(Just wanted to add, the 8am detention would be their problem too. As in, if they didn't get themselves there (don't care how), then they would suffer the consequences of that too. I may, in fact, talk to the school about that (especially if they are bus-catchers) on their behalf.)

The Catholic girls school accross the road from my all girl highschool, was ever so strict, no wearing your hair down, must be tied up, absolutely NO makeup of any sort etc, not even a little blob to cover up a zit!
They also had the highest number of teen pregnancy for 7 yrs running in NZ..

Hmm... rules are made to be broken!!!

Yes, it's a bit OTT and probably a tad anal too - but it's their school and you chose to send your kids there, so really it's their way or the highway!

I highly highly disagree with an 8am detention - that is punishing YOU Mum, not the kids!!! GRR

Sundays

It wasn't so long ago that I was at High School and sorry but I also agree with the school. It sucks to be the kid whose family cannot afford "cool" clothes, shoes and makeup. Yep, everyone knows it SHOULDN"T matter - but it DOES. Making specific rules about no makeup and uniforms evens out the playing field a little at school and they can still wear whatever they like in their own time.

Although I'm not sure about the 8am detention time - perhaps lunchtimes would be better?

I agree that rules is rules and your children are children and makeup is for w/ends and social times.
BUT agree with you that 8am is NOT the time.. and when my daughters were kept in after school cos of the other kids misbehaving I was down like a ton of bricks on the school,
one for making my children be punished due to other childrens misdeeds and two. trying to do it in my time .. so the punishment plan went out the window.
I think you have a case that they have ignored the rule,until now, and how many warnings were given??? if they had already been warned then yes, they deserve it. but not in your time..
anyway makeup is just mud, and it harbours things like scabies, so the school is actually doing them a favour.
my 2c worth

Watch that number two []

Anyone else think that the second or third children have such an easy ride compared to the eldest.

How come they end up with so much courage and determination? Not talking about me.