Film to watch tonight!

Bit late I know, but watch Children of Men

Its one gloomy film but gives you food for thought! And Clive Owen's in it, he's always worth a look!

Dunno what channel, probably on at 8.30pm, I'm sure you'll work it out!

Second time I've seen it, MM, and picked a whole lot more things out of it that the first time, it is a great film, though bloody scary as you think of what might happen to society/peoples' behaviour if they knew the 'end was nigh' []

I know it is scary! When I watched it the first time, boy did I feel depressed afterwards! May look out for it in the rental shop.

I didn't watch it last night, I can't bear watching a good film and have to put up with all the ads! Instead I watched old Brucey save the world...again!! :D

I watched it. It reminded me of a book I read many many moons ago called Childhood's End. Did the film, or the book, suggest how or why the infertility happened? Also why did Jasper have to open the blind to his driveway before the others could make their escape?

It didn't say explicitly, Valmai, just that gradually pregnancies tapered off and even women who were several months along started miscarrying...

I can't recall that exact bit about Jasper but...I think that Clive et all had to get out the same way that the other group came in, which is why Jasper uncovered the entranceway and why Clive's group were hiding in the forest rather than heading down the road - the baddies had to get in before they were clear to get out...they had an alarm system so they could hear when the baddies arrived and gave them enough warning to get into the forest.

I felt it was well filmed and a good watch, but I would liked to have known firstly what made everyone infertile, how come the lady got pregnant, where the heck she was headed on the boat (ie was she not the only one preggers?), how come they were too late for the regular pick up but got saved anyway, who on earth were the goodies and badies, and what did the teachers do for a living after people stopped having babies? And why, just because no babies were being born, did everyone feel the need to shoot each other. Surely with no-one needing family-sized houses and sections, there would be plenty of space for all. Or perhaps the people who would otherwise have been tied up raising families joined gun clubs instead.

And I thought Lost was confusing *sigh*

I was the opposite, seaside - I liked the fact that they didn't spell it all out.

I think the breakdown in society was because suddenly there was absolutely no hope for the future (hence the 'euthanasia' kits they gave people who wanted them) - there is a comment in there about noone realising until too late how important the sound of children was to a properly functioning society.

The goodies and baddies were relative, as the baddies wanted to use the pregnant girl (a refugee) as a political statement to force the govt to face the issue of the 'fugees' (refugees) that they were keeping in internment camps, whereas Clive et al wanted to get her to the scientific ship (The Human Project) where she might be able to help them find out why the infertility had happened and what they could do about it. Which is why it wasn't spelt out - noone knew why it had happened...:rolleyes:

MM i LOVED it...and i taped it on Mysky so zapped through the ads, i settled donw yesterdya afternoon and wached it hubby was ill so he went to bed, teens all tired so they went to bed, i opened a nice bottle of vino and had a great relaxing after noon...lol...at first i was bit....come on....this is crap...then it hotted up and i was engrosed...
seaside, it made me laugh when you asked what did the teachers do. with no kids to teach...alot of them may say they dont listen anyway so it wouldnt be much different......lol..
how the hell did that boat stay in one place for so long without being anchored down too....

I found the film rather depressing. You'd think the lack of children being born would ring alarm bells way before it got to that stage?

They already know that the amount of progesterone in the environment is lowering the sperm count in men and that 1 in 5 couples can't have children because one or both of them have had previous exposure to a sexually transmitted desease of some type. The more ephisodes of STDs a person has, the less chance there is of a successful pregnancy.

In the Western World the birth rate has dropped way down, because a lot of people don't want the burdon of bringing up children, when life can be a lot easier without them.

I can see a time when many countries will have to rely on immigrants to keep their population up. What happens when the developing countries also acheive a higher standard of living and couples choose to have less children? Will the Developed Countries then compete for dwindling number of immigrants, in order to maintain their own quality of life?

Lots of women have absolutely no idea how rapidly their chances of having a child decrease once they reach 30...a couple of friends caught that way.

The way the planet is going, a one child policy for everyone everywhere doesn't seem that outlandish! Quite frankly the planet/resources can't sustain the populations we now have at our current rate of consumption, and I can't see it lowering any time in the future...

tigger;239566 wrote: ....The way the planet is going, a one child policy for everyone everywhere doesn't seem that outlandish! Quite frankly the planet/resources can't sustain the populations we now have at our current rate of consumption, and I can't see it lowering any time in the future...

The idea of single child families which was adopted in China has generated all manner of downstream problems such as no uncles and aunts, overburdened child supporting 2 aging parents, etc, etc.

It was covered in a book I have read recently which gives an excellent insight into the past, present and future of the Chinese civilisation is "Where Underpants Come From" by Joe Bennett Easy reading and accurate portrayal of the Chinese phenomenon and Asian psyche.

Yes it did, but be interested to see what others think about what could/should be done to keep populations within a sustainable level (not that it is now, from all accounts, but that is something that has been debated since the 1970s Club of Rome and limits of growth report...[])

The biggest issue for China from what I have read is the number of Chinese men who will never be able to get married and start families as there are so many of them compared to women of their generation. Imagine the social unrest that will cause...

Interesting too that it isn't really a one-child policy any more. I have two Chinese friends (in their 30s) who both have sisters - the first child in the family gets everything paid for by the government (schooling, health etc), the parents must pay for everything for the second child.

Must get that Joe Bennett book, I do enjoy his writing

Here's an interesting read: www.abc.net.au/science/slab/rome/default.htm

Interesting in that this article was written in 1999, and said that the Limits of Growth predicted a 'major economic crisis in the 1990s, which didn't happen' - so maybe their predictions were out a mere 10 years?? [}]

tigger;239597 wrote: Here's an interesting read: www.abc.net.au/science/slab/rome/default.htm

Interesting in that this article was written in 1999, and said that the Limits of Growth predicted a 'major economic crisis in the 1990s, which didn't happen' - so maybe their predictions were out a mere 10 years?? [}]

Or maybe the US just generated more money (i.e. credit) and delayed it :rolleyes:

Generated more credit in the 1990s, printed more dollars in the 2000s [].

Speaking of Chinese, reminds me of their curse: May you live in interesting times [}]