Anyone know anything about boats?

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13 years 4 months ago #16881 by moggy
If so, what do you think of this one
www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=201999122

I have never owned a boat before, so don't really know what to look for. We have seen it and the photos do it justice. Mainly for tootlling round the peninsula, perhaps to take up to Marlborough sounds. Not for getting out of sight of land.

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13 years 4 months ago #252052 by Ronney
Well, it looks nice enough but would have been good to see the inside of it too. Inside comfort is important if spending a day on it. Probably bigger than I would want but that's a personal thing - there are only two of us and our 16 footer is enough to handle when getting on and off the trailer and is plenty big enough for two and will fish four comfortably.

Have you been out in it - I won't ever buy a boat without having been out for a run in it. I assume you have a vehicle suitable for both towing and launching?

Those are the things that come to mind at this time of night.

Cheers,
Ronnie

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13 years 4 months ago #252062 by cantyguy
I would stay clear of it personally. Its glass over ply so its very old. Even solid fibreglass is old technolgy (sp) these days. The 202 is also a very old motor and stern drives can be expensive to repair. For the same money I would be inclined to go for something a little more modern with an outboard. This will give you plenty of room inside and i would think more reliablity if you got it checked out first. The ply could very easily be delaminating under the fibreglass. Even solid fibreglass boats go 'soft' over time. In the last 20 years I've had/operated 3 boats all of which were alloy. Why don't you buy say a 5-6 metre alloy or glass boat, more than adequate for your area and with say a 40 horse plus motor quick enough to get you home safe if the weather turns. Something like this is similar but more modern than what you arelooking at. www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Boats-...uction-202723153.htm

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13 years 4 months ago #252071 by skyline_glenn
I'm with cantyguy on this. Stern legs take up a heap of room in the boat and being GOP it must be fairly old and will be heavy. You cant go past aluminium in my eyes, they are light so the motor doesn't have to be big, they are easy to launch and easier to tow. Only problem is they are a little noiser on the water and can get blown around on the water more.

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13 years 4 months ago #252080 by BillyTheTractor
we bought a wee boat when we got here and I would agree, one of the main things you want to do is take it out on the water to see how it handles it.
Look for bits of chop and swell.
It can be an expensive mistake if you get it wrong.
I agree with everything cantyguy said, we got a lot of similar advice when buying ours.



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13 years 4 months ago #252083 by Kiwi303
the price seems good and will reflect the age etc... I'd suggest you take it to a marine surveyer for a pre-purchase inspection... It would cost a bit but well worth the peace of mind, ring the coastguard and they will know some numbers to call, if they don't have someone on the staff themselves that do it. Then if it passes the "Sea WOF" take it out on the harbour for a half hour, feel how it handles, does the motor sound healthy, does it roll or wallow in the chop?

If the coastguard or Marine Surveyer are happy with it's structural soundness, and you like how it handles, it seems good buying. 202 holdens are old, but very reliable, and due to the numbers of old kingswoods and other classic holdens, you could build a complete new motor out of the profusion of aftermarket parts out there, right down to a new cast block and hang a turbocharger off the side. so the motor is no drawback for me at least :D

That inboard engine cover would also make a nice gutting table for your catch ;)

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13 years 4 months ago #252123 by cantyguy
There are so many 'modern' boats for sale at good prices why bother with an old one.

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13 years 4 months ago #252128 by maggies mum
Replied by maggies mum on topic Anyone know anything about boats?
Don't forget to take one of those coastguard courses if you ant to take a boat out. So many people out there take out boats without any knowledge of them. After all you take driving lessons to drive a car, so much more can go wrong in a boat.

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13 years 4 months ago #252132 by NZ Appaloosas
What I know about boats is this--the two happiest days of a boat owner's life are the day of purchase and the day of sale of said boat...in that order! A boat-owning friend of mine agrees. LOL We and his wife call the boat "the mistress".

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13 years 4 months ago #252139 by BillyTheTractor
I heard that too Diane, but I have to say we don't regret getting ours at all, we use it all summer and a lot of the rest of the year too, in fact some of our loveliest days have been in the winter.

We didn't get a big flash boat, in fact the boat itself is pretty old but was well looked after by the previous owners, where we did spend some money was on a new engine. The boat shop told us boating is 10% boat 90% engine :D

Moggy I'd say don't get something huge if it's just for the 2 of you. Ours is 5.1m and is great.
Something with shade is a good idea too.
Easy to launch and easy to maintain



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13 years 4 months ago #252143 by moggy
Thanks, your opinions on this boat match what the local garage mechanic said this morning, so yup will steer clear of it.
Cantyguy, yes that looks rather nice, have emailed the seller to ask to view.

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13 years 4 months ago #252146 by sod
All I know is I love going out fishing in them but as we live inland now:( silly to have one but one day will:):)

Having time is a measure of enthusiasm:rolleyes:

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13 years 4 months ago #252147 by moggy
Billythetractor, I myself don't want something that big, I would like something that if I had to I could get on and off the trailer myself, but as usualy men always want the biggest toy......... However if I can get him to listen to everyone else saying you that something that size is not for us, great.

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13 years 4 months ago #252150 by Hasbeen

moggy;230426 wrote: Billythetractor, I myself don't want something that big, I would like something that if I had to I could get on and off the trailer myself, but as usualy men always want the biggest toy......... However if I can get him to listen to everyone else saying you that something that size is not for us, great.

Moggy you can handle a boat that size with an outboard on to the trailer, no sweat.
I did it for years & I was not even average in size for a Kiwi girl.

If you are going to have a small boat you don't want any of the room in it being hogged by the motor.
Out driving here in Nelson there are flash boats everywhere for sale along the road side.
Anyone with the money these days can make a killing, as many will settle for what is owing on them.
Sad days for many[B)]

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13 years 4 months ago #252166 by DiDi
Doesn't handling the boat also include being able to remove your trailor from the launching site so that others can use it? How do you do that without a second person?

Laugh. Just imagining you saying "See you folks and taking off into the great blue sea with X amount of boats waiting to be launched at Kawakawa Bay up here. You would be drawn and quartered! Nowhere to tie up - maybe there is more access in your part of the country.

PS - I HATE fishing. Soooooo boring sitting around waiting...waiting...waiting! However I love the smell of the sea, swimming and love being in a boat going somewhere. Perhaps it is also because I am allergic to fish that I hate catching them just for "fun".

Glad you are giving that boat a miss - something made me shudder when I looked at it and believe me it had nothing to do with the look or price. Just felt wrong - and I don't even know you!

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