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15 years 11 months ago #207821 by Pumpkingirl

moggy;181617 wrote: to clarify, there is already power to the building, butin the caseof making itinto a flat,it would require more sockets.


While I agree that is a simple electrical job, if you are taking a building (formally, legally etc) from a sleepout to a dwelling, I suspect you will find the work will still need to be inspected and signed off by an inspector.

The height of the floor for a dwelling is another thing. My house had to be one concrete block from the ground to floor level (225mm from memory), with any porches 150mm below the level of the floor. If it was a garage and isn't high enough, that may be an issue too.

I couldn't get my Code Compliance signed off without written, signed certificates from the drainlayer, plumber and electrician.

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15 years 11 months ago #207825 by Pumpkingirl

DiDi;181614 wrote: Was interested that one of the quotes I got on Friday, they asked me if the buildings were permitted/approved by the Local Council. I thought you only needed electrical sign off but maybe not. Better to ask under these differing circumstances.


Yep, I got asked me that too, and they asked me what year it was signed off. I guess that keeps me out of the "leaky home" era for the insurance company.

As I posted above, you now need certificates from every certified trade on site - as we were a DIY build, building under the old rules, we didn't have to provide a certificate but we did have to sign our lives away under "builder", and provide paperwork for the septic tank installer, drainlayer, electrician and plumber. And the guy who did the fireplace too.

They actually queried the certificate from the septic tank guy (they couldn't read his writing!) and wouldn't accept it until I had made him right it out again in neat writing!

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15 years 11 months ago #207834 by max2
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OT to the original gist of the thread, but PG you raised an interesting point re building under Franklin, our application went in under Hubby's name, so does that make him responsible for the build as an owner builder or should have the Builders (winning tenderers) name be put on it?

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15 years 11 months ago #207856 by Pumpkingirl

swaggie;181706 wrote: OT to the original gist of the thread, but PG you raised an interesting point re building under Franklin, our application went in under Hubby's name, so does that make him responsible for the build as an owner builder or should have the Builders (winning tenderers) name be put on it?


No,that's fine Swaggie. I think as the owner, your name has to be on it.

When you get the paperwork for your Code Compliance, it has a list - owner's name, builder's name, certification number and so on for all the trades that might possibly be involved.

The "trades" also included project manager, so I put my name under that :D

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15 years 11 months ago #207867 by oskatd
Replied by oskatd on topic Coverting a sleepout/garage
If you are changing the use of a building, then you may require a building consent. It doesn't matter what you call it, it is what it was consented as in the first place that counts.

From a resource management point of view. If the garage is to be self-contained, it is no longer a sleep-out/garage or otherwise, it is a dwelling. It will need to comply with the yard requirements for dwellings (distance from boundaries) and any other rules that relate to dwellings, e.g. how many dwellings you can have on site, if the District Plan makes provision for minor dwellings, and if your garage complies with these requirements. You may require a resource consent also.

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15 years 11 months ago #207881 by LongRidge
moggy, if your cottage does not have dwelling consent, then when/if you sell the property you will not be able to sell the property as having 2 dwellings, so it won't be as valuable.
It is much easier to get the consents approved before and during building. Some are
- depth of foundations
- reinforcing in the foundations
- height about ground level of the floor (must be more than 150mm higher than ground, here)
- damp-proofing under the concrete
- insulation in the walls
- etc
are all easier to see if done before the building. Otherwise good photographs.

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15 years 11 months ago #207883 by jen
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www.ccc.govt.nz/quickanswers/buildingpla...ssleepouts/f1073.asp

You're not allowed a kitchen. You're permitted to have a sleepout..but if you intend any plumbing I believe you then need a building consent and probably a discharge consent from ECAN. If you have a kitchen then it becomes a fully self-contained unit which you wouldn't automatically have permission for (also known as a granny flat) They're pretty strict about granny flats, since they aren't consented as separate units, they require you to prove that they will be used for a dependant, and that when they're gone you have to rip out the kitchen!

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15 years 11 months ago #207892 by Seaside
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I'm sure that you'll need building consent. You have to have building consent to pretty much fart these days. Installing a kitchen, bathroom, etc where there wasn't already one requires building consent.

If you don't have it, when you sell, the purchasers will be able to tell from the LIM (it's one of the things I've always checked that any outbuildings, etc are on the LIM). Also, if it burns down and you didn't have a code of compliance for the conversion, your insurance won't cover you.

If you are converting it to use as guest accommodation, then it might be different from an extension or granny flat, as it would be a commercial development (so it might be easier to get consent than building a granny flat if you don't have grannies and just want the extra space - just guessing here, as I would hope the council would want to encourage new businesses). www.ccc.govt.nz/quickanswers/buildingpla...nformation/F1252.asp

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15 years 11 months ago #207893 by Pumpkingirl

jen;181756 wrote: www.ccc.govt.nz/quickanswers/buildingpla...ssleepouts/f1073.asp

You're not allowed a kitchen. You're permitted to have a sleepout..but if you intend any plumbing I believe you then need a building consent and probably a discharge consent from ECAN. If you have a kitchen then it becomes a fully self-contained unit which you wouldn't automatically have permission for (also known as a granny flat) They're pretty strict about granny flats, since they aren't consented as separate units, they require you to prove that they will be used for a dependant, and that when they're gone you have to rip out the kitchen!


Ah, so it's the same as Franklin then. Bugger.

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15 years 11 months ago #207911 by max2
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PG you can have a second dwelling in Franklin inc. kitchen etc if its housing for elderly/sick parents and also as worker accomodation.

It had a size restriction though and I am sure it was about 8 - 10 sq's. We seriously looked at it for Mum and Dad out the front of our 60 acres.

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15 years 11 months ago #207912 by Pumpkingirl

swaggie;181785 wrote: PG you can have a second dwelling in Franklin inc. kitchen etc if its housing for elderly/sick parents and also as worker accomodation.


Yes, that's what I was saying Swaggs, they have the same rules :D

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15 years 11 months ago #207920 by max2
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Pumpkingirl;181786 wrote: Yes, that's what I was saying Swaggs, they have the same rules :D


Oops, sorry, that is what filing does to my brain .... in an attempt to clear my desk here.

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15 years 11 months ago #207935 by Pumpkingirl

swaggie;181795 wrote: Oops, sorry, that is what filing does to my brain .... in an attempt to clear my desk here.


Desk clearing on a Monday is not to be advised. You won't be able to find anything on Friday when the desk is no longer clear :D I'm sitting here at a clear desk, unable to find four things I need. :D

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15 years 11 months ago #207937 by kate
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I can't even find my desk......... :(

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15 years 11 months ago #207955 by Pumpkingirl

Kate;181815 wrote: I can't even find my desk......... :(


Is that age related? Mwahahahahaha!

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