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16 years 8 months ago #1278 by GBpeter
The Times 10 Oct 07

A High Court judge today ruled that An Inconvenient Truth can be distributed to every school in the country but only if it comes with a note explaining nine scientific errors in Al Gore’s Oscar-winning film.

The Government had pledged to send thousands of copies of the film to schools across the country, but a Kent father challenged that policy saying it would “brainwash” children.

Mr Justice Burton ruled that the film could be sent to schools, but only if it was accompanied by new guidelines to balance the former US vice-president’s “one-sided” views

The judge said some of the errors were made in “the context of alarmism and exaggeration” in order to support Mr Gore’s thesis on global warming.

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16 years 8 months ago #57739 by maggies mum
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The thought police at work again! Now if that isn't brainwashing what is?

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16 years 8 months ago #57743 by max2
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Hubby heard on the radio yesterday the hole in the ozone layer is closing back up again... not that it made the headlines.

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16 years 8 months ago #57754 by Toni - Northland
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Yep, heard that too Swaggie. Funny isn't it how that wasn't trumpeted across our state run news.

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16 years 8 months ago #57762 by reggit
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GBPeter have they specified the 9 errors?

Take a break...while I take care of your home, your block, your pets, your stock! [;)] PM me...

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16 years 8 months ago #57766 by max2
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quote:Originally posted by Toni - Northland

Yep, heard that too Swaggie. Funny isn't it how that wasn't trumpeted across our state run news.

Good so that is two of you then to spread the word....[8D];)

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16 years 8 months ago #57774 by GBpeter
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I didn't want to clog up the forum :)

'In what is a rare judicial ruling on what children can see in the class-room, Mr Justice Barton was at pains to point out that the “apocalyptic vision” presented in the film was politically partisan and not an impartial analysis of the science of climate change. It is now common ground that it is not simply a science film – although it is clear that it is based substantially on scientific research and opinion – but that it is a political film.”

The judge agreed it could be shown (in schools) but on the condition that it was accompanied by new guidance notes for teachers to balance Mr Gore’s “one-sided” views.

The first mistake made by Mr Gore, said Mr Justice Burton in his written judgment, was in talking about the potential devastation wrought by a rise in sea levels caused by the melting of ice caps.

The claim that sea levels could rise by 20ft “in the near future” was dismissed as “distinctly alarmist”. Such a rise would take place “only after, and over, millennia”.

Mr Justice Burton added: “The armageddon scenario he predicts, inso-far as it suggests that sea level rises of seven metres might occur in the immediate future, is not in line with the scientific consensus.”

A claim that atolls in the Pacific had already been evacuated was supported by “no evidence”, while to suggest that two graphs showing carbon dioxide levels and temperatures over the last 650,000 years were an “exact fit” overstated the case.

Mr Gore’s suggestion that the Gulf Stream, that warms up the Atlantic ocean, would shut down was contradicted by the International Panel on Climate Change’s assessment that it was “very unlikely” to happen.

The drying of Lake Chad, the loss of Mount Kilimanjaro’s snows and Hurricane Katrina were all blamed by Mr Gore on climate change but the judge said the scientific community had been unable to find evidence to prove there was a link.

The drying of Lake Chad, the judge said, was “far more likely to result from other factors, such as population increase and overgrazing, and regional climate variability”. The melting of snow on Mt Kilimanjaro was “mainly attributable to human-induced climate change”.

The judge also said there was no proof to support a claim that polar bears were drowning while searching for icy habitats melted by global warming. The only drowned polar bears the court was aware of were four that died following a storm.

Similarly, the judge took issue with the former Vice-President of the United States for attributing coral bleaching to climate change. Separating the direct impacts of climate change and other factors was difficult, the judgment concluded. '

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16 years 8 months ago #57828 by bsadler
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and there i was thinking the science was settled!

re ozone hole: www.nature.com/news/2007/070924/full/449382a.html

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16 years 8 months ago #57998 by belinda_h
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And at the end of The Times article (reprinted in this morning's Dominion):
From the Dom's report this morning:
"Despite finding nine significant errors, the judge said many of the claims made by the film were fully backed up by the weight of science. He identified "four main scientific hypotheses, each of which is very well supported by research published in respeted, peer-reviewed journals and accords wil the latest conclusions of the INtergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
He agreed with the main thrust of Mr Gore's arguments: "That climate change is mainly attributable to manmade emissions of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide."
The other three main points the judge accepted were that global temperatures are rising and will continue to rise, that climate change will cause serious damage if left unchecked, and that it is possible for governments and individuals to reduce its effects.

Which gives a slightly different impression of the judge's ruling.

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16 years 8 months ago #58019 by GBpeter
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Not making any stand on global warming - I would agree with the last comments. He did, however, say it was a one sided political film with scientific errors aimed at swaying the general population - as long as this is appreciated - no sweat.

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16 years 8 months ago #58111 by Louise W
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They just won the Nobel peace prize!


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16 years 8 months ago #58119 by maggies mum
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Really??

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16 years 8 months ago #58121 by bsadler
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hardly something to be proud of given the previous luminaries who've won it

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16 years 8 months ago #58130 by GBpeter
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quote:Originally posted by bsadler

hardly something to be proud of given the previous luminaries who've won it

Unfortunately, the 'Peace prize' is a political gesture rather than anything meaningful.

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16 years 8 months ago #58177 by Hestia
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nobels peace price has always gone to wrong people!!

I don't know why there is a specific comittee in norway that gives away the nobels peace price since Alfred Nobel and all his other prices belong to Stockholm, Sweden.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_nobel
I read this article very fast, since I have other things that should be done and I shouldn't be even close to a pc :)
Did the first peace price go to Nobels sister? eeh?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_prize
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize_controversies

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