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8 months 1 week ago - 8 months 1 week ago #556058 by RichardF
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A bit of an update is in order!

I'm now the proud owner of a lot of gorse bushes and supporting infrastructure in Northland. Sale went through about 3 days into the lockdown so while I own it I haven't been able to go there. I have not been idle though...I have paid my first rates instalment!

Joking aside, I have also started growing my first batch of manuka seedlings. There are a few great "how-to" videos on youtube and I purchased some Northland seed through the interweb. This will get me going but I have my local buddies up there gathering some for me so that I can claim to have fairly local seed. When I eventually get to site I will pick up some from the various stands of manuka about the place, then I will have actual local bona-fide eco-sourced seeds. Has been great to feel as if I am doing something productive. After just over 2 weeks there are microscopic green bits appearing through the seed raising mix. (I can't see them without my glasses on) It's going to take a year before they are ready to plant and then it wont be the right time of year (coming into summer) so I have 18 months of production ahead of me before I can plant. If I manage to get 100 plants going a month, that's 1800 plants in little pots around my house down here.....will make the garden look interesting!! The bees will like it.

Also the access to the lot is being tidied up by a local contractor (eco-sourced lol) and so when I eventually get up there I should be able to drive right up onto it. If you drive past Kate on your way to the BOI, you will probably see it.

Fencing - nothing is happening on that till I get there but the land owner I bought from has been great and I don't envisage too many problems, with him at least!. I'll probably end up doing most of it myself, with plenty of mechanical assistance. Haven't had the chance to talk to any of the neighbours yet. Don't have a clue if there is any stock grazing it.

I bought an Extractigator - tried it out on a few shrubs around here and......well maybe it will do a better job on gorse. It didn't take much of a shrub before I needed a 1m long scaffold pole extension and even then it didn't pull the piffling little shrub out enough to totally get it out of the ground. Jury is out on that, will report back when I get up there.

Finally and perhaps most importantly I have bought my chainsaw (battery op) just waiting for Mr Bunnings to tell me when I can come and get it.

Reading forum posts has been very helpful, especially the ones about the animal dramas as it has reinforced my no livestock approach. Reading those is enough to turn anyone vegetarian!!

Hope you are all coping with your various levels of lockeddownness. Thanks for all the help. Stay well people.
Cheers
Richard
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8 months 1 week ago #556060 by tonybaker
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Great and exiting times ahead, Richard! All the answers to your questions are on here somewhere, except for "the meaning of life" - as most of us are still pondering that one!
Have you considered Tagasaste (tree lucerne)? It grows well and propagates fairly easily. You will need to get some root trainer pots for your seedlings as you want those roots to go down and not round and round. Also, arm yourself with tree guards and bamboo canes or the rabbits will destroy your hard earned rewards.
Don't be afraid of a few sheep, especially Dorpers or Wiltshires, they really are easy care and will benefit the soil. As long as your fences are sound and you have water, that's all you need.
I don't think you can beat the gorse in the short term, except by aggressive slashing and burning and hard grazing. The current school of thought is that you use the gorse as a nurse crop then it will die off as the canopy shades it.
Good luck and welcome to the forum!

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8 months 1 week ago #556062 by RichardF
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Thanks Tony
No tagasaste for me, its not native. Whats the benefit of planting that?

No water on my property, basically a hill so little chance to store any and no streams ephemeral or otherwise. So no sheep.

But never say never!

Cheers
Richard
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8 months 1 week ago #556064 by tonybaker
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5 acres, Ferguson 35X and implements, Hanmay pto shredder, BMW Z3, Countax ride on mower, chooks, Dorper and Wiltshire sheep. Bosky wood burning central heating stove and radiators. Retro caravan. Growing our own food and preserving it. Small vineyard, crap wine. :)
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8 months 1 week ago #556065 by kate
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Also www.lifestyleblock.co.nz/lifestyle-file/...ee-lucerne-tagasaste

We've planted heaps of it here. The goats love it and it grows well. We fed out lots earlier this year when we were in drought.

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8 months 1 week ago #556067 by RichardF
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Thanks Kate and Tony. I wont need it for fodder but ive got plenty of room so may try some just to see what happens.

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8 months 1 week ago #556068 by LongRidge
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It flowers in late winter and very early spring so it provides food for keruru / native wood pigeons. They love it and will strip it bare, as it is about the only flower available for them that early in the year. It fixes nitrogen because it is a legume, makes very good firewood although nobbly, and it only lasts about 10 years. Down here in Tasman there is no risk of it going feral.
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7 months 1 week ago #556291 by RichardF
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Further update.

The access way into the site is now built and I didn’t even raise a sweat. This lockdown business has its advantages it seems.

Better still my eco-sourced local contractor had a fence post whacking doohickey on his digger and so put in heaps of posts while he was there, so the vendor can run the wires. I’ll be giving him a call when I do any fencing that’s for sure.

And I have a date to actually go there! That will be a nice Christmas present.

Progress is being made.
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6 months 3 weeks ago #556396 by Ferrit47
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Richard Good Luck & Hope it goes well for you.
Pretty Brave Buying something without seeing it properly first though.
Keep us Posted on Progess.

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6 months 3 weeks ago #556399 by RichardF
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Thanks !! I have seen it, more than a few times. The ownership changed just into lockdown so havent been there since.

I will hopefully get up there again before Christmas.

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6 months 2 weeks ago #556438 by RichardF
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Transplanted my first batch of manuka seedlings into a plug tray this afternoon. Just over 100, I
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6 months 1 week ago #556506 by Ferrit47
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Merry Christmas Richard.
Hope you get up there soon.
Lets us know how it all goes.

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6 months 1 week ago #556509 by RichardF
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Well thank you, and merry Christmas to everyone on here.

Haven't made it up there yet, but sometime after Christmas, in between looking after my sons dog for a few days and looking after a few grandchildren for a few more, I will sneak up for a quick look. Things free up for me in January and so I will be able to get up and do some stuff (not entirely sure what yet). Looking forward to it

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1 month 4 weeks ago #557309 by RichardF
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Autumn update!!!!

I have now been to the site a few times and even camped there but haven't achieved much but that was the plan over the summer anyway.

The land is being grazed at the moment but have had a discussion re fencing off an area that I can start planting on. My seedlings look like they could survive so I'll be putting those in the ground in a month or so.

The driveway needs a bit of maintenance already, drains need cleaning and rampant kikuyu growth needs spraying. So recent threads about backpack sprayers and gorse cutting implements are timely and useful, thanks to all who posted there.

I've been told that heli sprayjng will only knock the gorse back and not kill it. I'm wondering whether I'd be better off spending that money on a good brush cutter. I favor the idea of cutting it and painting the stumps...mainly because I don't like the prospect of physically spraying 3 to 4 hectares of gorse myself. I see opinions differ so happy to hear if everyone thinks that's a mistake. I note the property is bounded on three sides by land with lots of gorse and tobacco weed and no attempt to control it, so I will have an ongoing problem, for sure.

Still got some fencing to do and still to decide whether I have a crack at that myself or hire a fencer. I've got a quote and it's a lot of money but if I get the pros to do it, it will no doubt be a better job and I can get on with planting trees. I'm leaning in that direction.

May also soon have some flat land but that might end up being punted to spring/summer as the site is steep and shifting dirt will be challenging if it's wet.

Pretty happy though. Good to be able to go visit it at last.

Cheers
Richard

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1 month 4 weeks ago #557311 by tonybaker
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The main issue with fencing is getting the posts in the ground, can you get a contractor to do that and you do the actual fence? I am a big fan of sheep netting as it suits a bigger range of stock and it's relatively easy for an amateur to install. If there is a vineyard nearby there are bound to be broken posts that would be ok for stock fencing?

5 acres, Ferguson 35X and implements, Hanmay pto shredder, BMW Z3, Countax ride on mower, chooks, Dorper and Wiltshire sheep. Bosky wood burning central heating stove and radiators. Retro caravan. Growing our own food and preserving it. Small vineyard, crap wine. :)

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