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11 months 4 days ago #555414 by RichardF
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Hi All

First post to introduce myself. In process of buying 5.5ha in Northland with a view to long term revegetation with natives. After having searched the forum I'm not sure I'm in the right place as it seems to be much more about stock and farming than trees and planting.

However, if there are Northland locals who are able to provide a complete novice any advice on revegetation, I'd welcome the opportunity to meet up and shout you a coffee.

Would also be interested in thoughts on gear/machinery. The land is steepish (basically a big hill) and there's only one decent fence on the property, and that one is not on the boundary, so lots of fencing to do. Plenty of gorse. I'm planning to get someone in to do the fencing but might end up clearing benches for it myself.

I have been contemplating a small (micro) digger (cant afford a big one!) but see that many on here have minimal gear themselves and hire stuff in when they need it. Leaning that way at the moment.

Would welcome any suggestions, comments.
At the bottom of the learning curve, looking up!!

Cheers
Richard
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11 months 4 days ago #555415 by kate
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Hi Richard and welcome to the forum and Northland :cheer: Where about (roughly) in Northland are you?

The native trees will revegatate themselves whether you plant them or not. The gorse is an excellent nursery crop, it protects the young native seedlings then as the natives grow taller they shade out the gorse which will kill it.

Why do you need to fence? What's on your boundary? We have large areas of our block unfenced as they're QEII covenanted and bordering other covenants.

Not an expert on machinery, it's often more economic to hire an expert and a machine than hire or buy one and learn on the job.

Cheers
Kate

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11 months 4 days ago #555416 by RichardF
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Thanks Kate

Ill be in Hikurangi.

Fencing is mostly to keep other people's stock away from my probably very expensive seedlings.
I understand that if I just leave it the bush will eventually regenerate itself but I wont be around to see that so want to give Ma Nature a bit of a leg up. That way I'll get to see a few trees grow too hopefully.

Plus if I want to graze any of it I will need fences.

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11 months 4 days ago #555417 by kate
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I'm just up the road at Helena Bay :cheer: :cheer:

Native trees do grow amazingly quickly but planting would definitely help. I'll wrack my brains to think of someone doing that locally....

You say your land is hilly in which case you may be able to get some help from the NRC's planting on erosion-prone land scheme . We had a bad slip last year and after talking to NRC they helped us to plant about 120 trees in our paddocks. They give advice and pay a contribution towards the costs of buying and planting. We found them very helpful and knowledgeable. We planted fodder trees as we have stock in there.

Happy to chat about it if you want to know more B)

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Kate

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11 months 4 days ago #555418 by RichardF
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Thanks again, a chat later on would be great. Will be a month or two before I can actually do very much.

I've been in touch with NRC about other things and they have been super helpful. So yes, will follow up on that with them. They also have a few good revegetation references downloadable from their website.

A lovely area, I'm looking forward to spending a lot of time there.

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11 months 4 days ago #555419 by Ruth
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Welcome Richard, my only urging would be to source your plants locally, not bring plants in from out of the area.
I planted a bare paddock area with seeds I'd grown myself from trees already here and it's been an absolute delight to see it all grow up.

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11 months 3 days ago #555423 by linrae
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You say fencing to keep neighbours stock out.
If fencing to go on boundary neighbour is liable for half the costs. They have to keep their stock in also. not you keeping them out.
If they wont play ball maybe wrong area to be buying in

Just my thoughts from experience

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11 months 3 days ago #555425 by max2
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You say fencing to keep neighbours stock out.
If fencing to go on boundary neighbour is liable for half the costs. They have to keep their stock in also. not you keeping them out.
If they wont play ball maybe wrong area to be buying in

Just my thoughts from experience


So then you serve a fencing notification act on the neighbours with the appropriate quote attached. www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1978/...latest/DLM21807.html

Keeping animals in is part of the Keeping Animals bylaw Act by the District Council (I recently found this out as I made a submission to our Council's review of the Act) and the Fencing Act is administered by the Min of Justice through the District Court system.

But wherever anyone ends up, you always end up with a mix of characters for neighbours. :lol: :lol:

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11 months 3 days ago #555427 by RichardF
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Hi Ruth and thanks.

I haven't read enough yet about the whole regeneration thing but I have already read many times its good to use seed from where ever you are, for many good reasons. That's part of the plan (such as it is, job 1 is probably to make a better plan) but as I mentioned above I am also looking at some more mature planting in some areas.

You live in an interesting spot, I've ridden through Waiotehue Road from Kaitaia on the way to Kohukohu but not yet down Diggers Valley. Ill get in touch if I'm coming that way and pop in if that's ok. Would be good to see what you have been able to do

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11 months 3 days ago #555428 by RichardF
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Thanks am aware of the Fencing Act. A bit late for me though as purchase is just about done.

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11 months 3 days ago #555429 by Ruth
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Hi Ruth and thanks.... Ill get in touch if I'm coming that way and pop in if that's ok. Would be good to see what you have been able to do
You would be most welcome. Best contact is via the website rather than PM in here, since it doesn't always tell me there's a message.
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11 months 3 days ago #555430 by RichardF
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And thanks also. Not my preferred way of introducing myself to the neighbours :) I'll see what I can do with cake based diplomacy first, lol. My experience is that you get the neighbours you deserve, for the most part.

I agree its likely that I will have all sorts of different experiences, wherever I ended up buying. Just need to roll with it and do the best I can.

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11 months 3 days ago #555431 by Ruth
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Some of us have discovered that you get the neighbours only they themselves actually deserve! Regardless of how well you behave.
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11 months 3 days ago #555432 by RichardF
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Like i said, im new to all this so ill have see how I go. Should be interesting at least :)

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11 months 3 days ago #555434 by RichardF
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Next question....is anyone using the extractigator thingies for pulling out gorse by hand? I'm imagining something like will be required if i want to get rid of it on the uber steep bits.
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