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Watching SBS TV from Australia 15 Apr 2012 23:02 #31362

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If, as seems likely, TVNZ7 closes, and you are still hungering for some decent, thought-provoking content without stumping up for Sky, here is another option you might like to consider:

http://www.sbs.com.au/schedule

SBS has two free-to-air channels broadcast across Australia, and they can be received by anyone in NZ with a Sky or Freeview dish, and some types of satellite receivers. The channels we can receive here come from the Optus D1 satellite at 160 degrees East, which also carries Sky and Freeview. They are intended for Tasmania, so are a little weaker than the ones intended for NZ.

There are many foreign-language programmes as you can see from the schedules above. However, on SBS HD there is an excellent selection of documentaries from the BBC and elsewhere, and most of them are only 1 or 2 years old.

Docos I have watched recently are:

- Stephen Hawking's Brave New World (remember Beyond 2000 anyone? -- this is the 21st century version of it)

- A Celtic History of Britain

- Coast (a series exploring the coastlines of Britain, Ireland and parts of Europe)

- Civilisation: Is The West History?

- Big, Bigger, Biggest (covers various impressive engineering breakthroughs)

Many of the best programmes are on late at night (NZ time) because of the 2-hour time difference, so it is often easiest to record them.

The SBS channels have been broadcast on Optus D1 since 2007, and while there is no guarantee they will remain available, they are definitely worth watching if you hunger for documentary content which is simply not screened here -- or if it is, then it's probably many years old.

It is also possible to download programmes from the SBS website, but there are some tricks involved, which I won't go into here. The simplest and easiest way is to receive the programmes from satellite and record them for later viewing as I do every week.

At DiDi's request, here are the details of a cheap receiver sold by The Warehouse which will reportedly receive the SBS channels:

http://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/red/catalog/product/Digital-Satellite-TV-Freeview-Receiver-TWH-S1?SKU=1400533

N.B. I haven't tried this receiver myself, but a knowledgeable geek says it should do the job. Certainly, the price is right at just $79!

Depending on the age and condition of your Sky or FreeView dish, it may or may not be up to the job. My old Sky dish worked perfectly on SBS until the heat of summer finally struck in late December/early Jan. Then the tuning started drifting and I could only watch the SBS channels at night. After spending about $80 on a new LNB and mounting bracket, I have better reception than ever, at any time of day or night. Your local Freeview installer could fix up your dish if needs be.

The receiver I use is this one:

http://www.vuplus.com.au/Satellite-STB/HD-Satellite-STB/Vuplus-Duo

It lets me record at least two channels at once, while watching a pre-recorded programme. On some occasions, I have seen it making 4 recordings at once, if they happen to be on the right satellite transponders.

I have installed a 2TB hard drive, which gives practically unlimited recording capacity. With our old MySky box, we were always running out of hard drive space, but that is no longer a problem. The Vu+ box runs on Linux, which does mean it is quite complicated in some places. It is aimed at enthusiasts and people like myself who enjoy tinkering with the settings. I have made up my own list of channels in the order I most often use them, which is something you cannot do with a Sky box.

I am seriously considering ditching our Sky subscription after the Olympics are over, because we hardly watch any of their channels now that we can receive SBS. How nice of our Aussie cousins to provide this service for us :D
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 16 Apr 2012 07:30 #421459

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I switched to freeview and got a guy in who brought a box and hooked everything up. Unfortunately, if you want to receive those aussie channels which i have heard are super good, then you need a freeview system that can receive them. Mine unfortunately cant and I dont think can be programmed to receive. Either i get a new box that can receive those programmes or go without. My non technical understanding of the situation
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 16 Apr 2012 09:17 #421472

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We have watched SBS though TVNZ 7 rules the roost for the meantime in our house. From memory we can also receive a channel out of Cairns too :confused:

We tune into Freeview using a Sky dish left fitted on our house by the previous owner after discovering that the terrestrial signal wasn't broadcast from the Hen & Chickens translator on Mt. Egmont. I understand this has changed and Taranaki now has a terrestrial signal. Our dish is aligned to whatever the previous owner set it to (for Sky) so realignment may be required to improve marginal reception :confused:

A question though about rain fade which makes TVNZ 7 (and other Freeview channels, especially weaker channels such as SBS) unwatchable in bad weather. In such conditions we either switch to the (non Freeview version) of TV3, Prime or the likes, or more likely do something else :rolleyes: Is this rain fade an unavoidable fact of life for satellite based TV reception, and if so do we expect to have our Winter TV viewing severely reduced?

We are less than 15km from the translator on Egmont and have a clear line of sight so is this probably a work-around but as it will exclude reception of SBS and similar we probably wouldn't bother with going to the extra expense and hassle of doing this.

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Watching SBS TV from Australia 16 Apr 2012 10:13 #421475

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muri;418793 wrote: I switched to freeview and got a guy in who brought a box and hooked everything up. Unfortunately, if you want to receive those aussie channels which i have heard are super good, then you need a freeview system that can receive them. Mine unfortunately cant and I dont think can be programmed to receive. Either i get a new box that can receive those programmes or go without. My non technical understanding of the situation
You would be surprised how many boxes can be programmed to receive the SBS channels. I heard just now that a Zinwell box is capable of doing it, if you know how. Zinwell are one of the most "locked down" boxes out there, so that was a surprise.

In order to receive SBS, your box needs to be capable of either an automatic scan, or have the ability to add extra channels manually, like the warehouse one I linked to above. Then there are some numbers you need to add in:

Satellite-> Optus D1
Transponder-> name it what you want (SBS TAS)
Frequency-> 12648
Symbol Rate-> 12600
Polarisation-> VERT

For each box, the procedure is a bit different, but if you post here the parameters your box is asking for when adding a new channel, chances are I can tell you how to do it.
Organix;418810 wrote: We have watched SBS though TVNZ 7 rules the roost for the meantime in our house. From memory we can also receive a channel out of Cairns too :confused:
On my most recent scan of the Optus D1 satellite, I didn't find anything from Cairns. Until recently, there were some extra channels called GEM and I think Channel 7 or 9. They have been moved to another satellite now I think.

Before changing my LNB, I was also able to receive the Optus C1/D3 satellites. I did a scan of those too, just out of interest, but pretty much all of the content was encrypted, except for some news gathering (SNG) feeds. At the time, they were reporting on the Queensland floods, but those feeds come and go all the time, and it is luck of the draw whether you see them or not. Personally, I'm only interested in channels that are always available, so I can set up recordings.
Organix;418810 wrote: We tune into Freeview using a Sky dish left fitted on our house by the previous owner after discovering that the terrestrial signal wasn't broadcast from the Hen & Chickens translator on Mt. Egmont. I understand this has changed and Taranaki now has a terrestrial signal. Our dish is aligned to whatever the previous owner set it to (for Sky) so realignment may be required to improve marginal reception :confused:
The dish points to exactly the same place whether you are receiving SBS, Sky or Freeview, because they all use the same satellite.
Organix;418810 wrote: A question though about rain fade which makes TVNZ 7 (and other Freeview channels, especially weaker channels such as SBS) unwatchable in bad weather. In such conditions we either switch to the (non Freeview version) of TV3, Prime or the likes, or more likely do something else :rolleyes: Is this rain fade an unavoidable fact of life for satellite based TV reception, and if so do we expect to have our Winter TV viewing severely reduced?
Your dish is not aligned properly if this is happening. Since they fired up the Optus D1 satellite in 2007 I think it was, rain fade should never happen because the transmit power is far greater than the old B1 satellite.

If you loosen the dish mountings one axis at a time and peak the signal using the SNR (signal strength) indicators on your box, you should be able to solve this problem. Failing that, ask the local Freeview installer to do it for you.

I don't have a Satfinder, which is the tool that the pros use to do this. But by using the Satfinder function on my box, while watching the TV set through the window and adjusting the LNB, I was able to improve the reception of SBS significantly, so we no longer lose it during heavy rain.
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 16 Apr 2012 12:33 #421497

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I live here and I haven't worked out how to get my set-top box to get SBS yet! Will take a closer look now though, as the programming really does look quite good..
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 16 Apr 2012 12:49 #421501

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Nora;418839 wrote: I live here and I haven't worked out how to get my set-top box to get SBS yet! Will take a closer look now though, as the programming really does look quite good..
If you are in SA, you will be on a different beam to Tasmania/NZ. Have a look at this page for the details:

http://www.lyngsat.com/Optus-D1.html

Presumably, SBS Adelaide on 12487 H would be the one.
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 16 Apr 2012 13:02 #421502

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Thanks very much Grant.
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 16 Apr 2012 13:20 #421504

I second SBS as a great option for documentaries. Since getting Freeview we have enjoyed heaps of great programmes.
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 16 Apr 2012 13:37 #421507

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GrantK;418813 wrote: .......

If you loosen the dish mountings one axis at a time and peak the signal using the SNR (signal strength) indicators on your box, you should be able to solve this problem.......
Thanks very much for your wisdom. As the dish is two stories up on a dormer out of a 45 degree pitched roof that is easier said than done though. So, pay someone to do a relatively simple task or risk life and limb. Hmm....... :confused: [B)]

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Watching SBS TV from Australia 16 Apr 2012 13:39 #421508

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When my aerial fell off the roof in a storm, the landlady was sold a Alkris Digital Satellite Receiver ALK-KTA1 which I am now using off the old Sky dish without issue but can't find if it can be tuned to SBS. May as well use it as she paid for it!

HOWEVER... I own a Dish S9020DVD receiver that when searching says it is already programmed for SBS. Not that I knew! Laugh. I put it away when she produced this one as to be honest, Dish is a great machine but a dreadful remote. Dreadful on distance to the machine. Disgusting! Need I say more? I have already had one replaced and this is not better.

So, can the Alkris be programmed or is it just for NZ as stated if you look it up on their website? be programmed?
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 16 Apr 2012 14:07 #421515

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DiDi;418850 wrote: When my aerial fell off the roof in a storm, the landlady was sold a Alkris Digital Satellite Receiver ALK-KTA1 which I am now using off the old Sky dish without issue but can't find if it can be tuned to SBS.
I am fairly sure that is the same one our friends in Russell have, and it apparently couldn't be tuned to SBS either. I found the website:

http://alkrisshop.shopnz.biz/catalog/index.php?cPath=375&osCsid=3aa6760235b4345c83cc565aa58677eb

But there is absolutely nothing of any help on there. Alkris are a local company who will be importing these from China under their own label. If we could find the original manufacturer, it may be possible to find the manual, or failing that, if you could post the contents of any pages that deal with setting up new channels. I expect there would only be one or two pages at the most.
DiDi;418850 wrote: HOWEVER... I own a Dish S9020DVD receiver that when searching says it is already programmed for SBS. Not that I knew! Laugh. I put it away when she produced this one as to be honest, Dish is a great machine but a dreadful remote. Dreadful on distance to the machine. Disgusting! Need I say more? I have already had one replaced and this is not better.
Have you tried replacing the batteries in the remote?

Sometimes that is all that is wrong as I discovered the other night when I replaced my remote batteries for the first time. The Dish TV gear is more than capable of doing what you want, but see if you can find any manual pages dealing with channel setup for the Alkris and I will try to figure out how to program a new channel.
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 21 Apr 2012 22:35 #422165

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Very basic question. Will all freeview boxes work with both arial and/or dish?
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 22 Apr 2012 09:03 #422187

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Valmai;419579 wrote: Very basic question. Will all freeview boxes work with both arial and/or dish?
Some FreeView boxes are designed for Satellite (dish), and others for UHF (aerial).

None of the low-end boxes cater for both, although there are some very expensive ones available which do. These are popular in Europe where there is a multitude of services available, but here in NZ, there isn't any point in getting a satellite dish installed for FreeView if you can get it on UHF. Satellite installs are always more expensive than a simple UHF aerial.
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 22 Apr 2012 13:09 #422208

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I had to get a satellite dish when I moved to Oamaru last year.

I was thrilled when I found that I could watch SBS again (I'm an Aussie so I've missed my Aussie tv stations). I love SBS - it has a great news service with proper news stories. The docos are brilliant as are the dramas - I really enjoyed "The Promise" with Haaz Sleiman a few months ago. I rarely watch the local stations other than Channel 7 as SBS provides me with quality programmes and no Yank (so called)comedies.
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helen55;419629 wrote: ...
I love SBS - it has a great news service with proper news stories. The docos are brilliant as are the dramas - I really enjoyed "The Promise" with Haaz Sleiman a few months ago. I rarely watch the local stations other than Channel 7 as SBS provides me with quality programmes and no Yank (so called)comedies.
I couldn't agree more Helen. I watch more on SBS than any other single channel now. Especially the docos, and occasionally a movie.

Shows I record from the local channels are:

- Fair Go
- All the current affairs programmes: 60 mins/ 20-20 / Sunday

Then I download some programmes from the BBC using iPlayer:

- Top Gear
- Click

Occasionally I watch the news and weather, but can't really be bothered sitting down for a full hour just to get a few snippets of interest. I find browsing the stories on NZ Herald and the Northern Advocate websites gives me more than enough news on just the specific stories I am interested in. I do still flick through the local rag, and some of the farming papers which continually clutter up our letterbox.

SBS leaves any of the local channels for dead in my opinion.
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 22 Apr 2012 23:43 #422255

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Here's a blogger who reckons that the NZ Govt. should part-fund SBS, making a win-win for both Australian and NZ viewers:

http://extra-channels.com/

He also says that SBS is likely to disappear sometime during the first half of next year. I hope not, but if it happens I will download programmes from their website instead of recording them from satellite. More of a hassle though...
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 23 Apr 2012 09:51 #422274

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Question for Grant:

Can I get a tv card for my PC which will do this?

Thanks.
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 23 Apr 2012 10:20 #422276

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kayjay;419709 wrote: Question for Grant:

Can I get a tv card for my PC which will do this?

Thanks.
Yes, it's definitely possible. I'm trying to find out which is the best card, as it's not something I have ever tried to do. Will get back to you later.

OK, here is the info. The card linked below from PB Tech. will do the job apparently, and the cost is $118+GST.

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=TVNHGR1323&name=Hauppauge-Wintv-HVR-3300-HD-PCIe-tri-band-card-Ana

There will be quite a bit of messing around setting it up though, and the receiver from The Warehouse (linked to above) would be easier.

You will of course need a satellite dish and LNB in either case. If there is already a Sky dish or FreeView dish at your house, you will have all you need.
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 23 Apr 2012 18:35 #422327

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Grant How do I know for sure my UHF aerial will work with freeview before I buy one? I dont want have to buy a second reciever and a satellite dish. Is it the same line of sight as for analog signal?
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Valmai;419778 wrote: Grant How do I know for sure my UHF aerial will work with freeview before I buy one? I dont want have to buy a second reciever and a satellite dish. Is it the same line of sight as for analog signal?
Depending on how old your UHF aerial and cable is, it may or may not be good enough for FreeView. The best way is to try receiving Prime and Maori TV via Analogue. If you get a good clean signal, it will most likely work OK on FreeView. If you get a rubbish signal, installing a new aerial may fix it -- or not -- depending on where you live.

So my advice would be to look at the picture on Prime and Maori TV first. If they look good then you may as well buy a FreeView UHF receiver box.

If Prime and Maori TV have poor picture quality, then talk to your local FreeView installer and see if they recommend FreeView UHF or FreeView Satellite for your area. In that case, you will need to get a new UHF aerial or dish installed, according to the installer's recommendation.
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 24 Apr 2012 18:06 #422503

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Grant thank you for taking the time to answer everyones' questions. Yep I get a good picture on Prime and Maori tv.
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Valmai;419979 wrote: Grant thank you for taking the time to answer everyones' questions. Yep I get a good picture on Prime and Maori tv.
No worries Valmai :)

In that case, you could go and buy a Freeview Terrestrial (UHF) receiver and enjoy the benefits of digital TV now. Hardly Normal sent a flyer in today's mail and there are a couple of "Dish TV" receivers there which are worth a look:

1) Dish TV Terrestrial receiver with USB record $139.

2) Dish TV Terrestrial record with internal 500GB Hard Drive $388.

Either of these will let you record programmes onto a Hard Drive. In the case of option (1), you plug in an external hard drive, whereas option (2) has a hard drive built in, which makes for a tidier setup.

If you don't want to splash out for recording capability initially, option (1) will do it for you, and you can add a hard drive when ready. Option (2) has it all, ready to record from day 1.

Either of these should be good units, although I haven't used one personally. Dish TV has a good reputation with NZ-based support, unlike some of the others that are out there.
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Thankyou Grant.
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We should be supporting tvnz7 - www.savetvnz7.co.nz
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 26 Apr 2012 15:24 #422757

Grant, I found by rotating the LNB slightly I could balance the vertical SBS and horizontal NZ channels to 75% it meant the horizontal NZ channels went down from 100% to 75% but the SBS went up from 0% and it doesn't seem to have made any difference to the reception of the NZ stations.
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wandering free;420263 wrote: Grant, I found by rotating the LNB slightly I could balance the vertical SBS and horizontal NZ channels to 75% it meant the horizontal NZ channels went down from 100% to 75% but the SBS went up from 0% and it doesn't seem to have made any difference to the reception of the NZ stations.
Yes, that would be expected. SBS is on Vertical Polarisation and the signals are weaker, so it's best to rotate the LNB for best signal on SBS, then you won't have any worries with the NZ channels which are on Horizontal Polarisation, and are stronger.
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 26 Apr 2012 20:00 #422807

Is it Saas Bahu Saajish (SBS) TV. I often watch this tv.
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 04 May 2012 19:04 #423805

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There's no SBS signal on my tv tonight. I hope it's just a temporaary problem!
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helen55;421440 wrote: There's no SBS signal on my tv tonight. I hope it's just a temporaary problem!
It's disappeared off my receiver as well. Likewise, I hope this is just temporary. As soon as I hear anything, I'll post back here.
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Still nothing this morning!
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Yeah, it's not looking too good Helen. There are two series I am currently watching:

- Coast (last night)
- Civilisation: Is The West History?

So I will download the remaining episodes of those. Last night's Coast is already available for download, but only stays that way for a limited time.

If you need any help with downloading, let me know. I use a VPN service called Astrill which costs me $8 per month. I can access BBC programmes with it too.
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I've also been watching the Civilisation doco as well. It's a great series.

Re downloading programmes, I'm on the most basic of broadband packages with Telecom so I'm not sure if I would be able to download many programmes. And the connection here is so slow that I can't even watch anything on Youtube without it going ... stop, start, stop, stop, start. It's very frustrating.
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helen55;421507 wrote: Re downloading programmes, I'm on the most basic of broadband packages with Telecom so I'm not sure if I would be able to download many programmes. And the connection here is so slow that I can't even watch anything on Youtube without it going ... stop, start, stop, stop, start. It's very frustrating.
If YouTube won't work, then you probably don't have a good enough connection to download from SBS, which uses streaming. BBC iPlayer also has the option of downloading, which is what I prefer. On my old wireless connection with a 1Mbps download speed, I would set a download going before going to bed. It would take about 3 hours to download a one hour BBC programme. Now that I am on Vodafone's RBI wireless service, I can download a one hour programme in about 1.5 hours, and streaming is also OK.

The really strange thing with this SBS outage is that their EPG (Electronic Programme Guide) is still available via the satellite. I can see what all the programmes are, but cannot watch any of them. So there is some small hope that the signal will return, but others are saying this is already the longest outage they've encountered, so the signs are not good.
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Watching SBS TV from Australia 06 May 2012 19:53 #424006

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Still no SBS...
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Yes, sad to say it looks like the days of quality, up-to-date BBC programming available in NZ via satellite may be over. Now we only have Sky's BBC Knowledge channel which is typically years out of date, and peppered with frequent ad breaks and incessant promos for their other channels. I am getting increasingly disillusioned with what is on offer, and may well cancel our subscription after the Olympics if things don't improve.

I watched Coast via the internet at full speed last night, and the quality was pretty similar to SBS 1, but not as good as SBS HD which I have been enjoying for several months now. Sad, so sad...
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Hmmm .... there seems little point in owning a tv any more. SBS was far superior to anything shown on the "local" stations.
I'm not in to sport at all and would never subscribe to Sky so it looks as if I'll be doing a lot of reading in the evenings!
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Hi all,
New member and like Helen have retired here from Aus.
I agree 100% with Helen's comments about local NZ TV and how good it was to find that SBS WAS available (until last Friday) Other web groups are already discussing this issue and whether we will see SBS again.
I would welcome any technical suggestions to restore it.
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colsarg;421810 wrote: I agree 100% with Helen's comments about local NZ TV and how good it was to find that SBS WAS available (until last Friday) Other web groups are already discussing this issue and whether we will see SBS again.
I would welcome any technical suggestions to restore it.
Agreed, it really sucks that we have lost access to SBS, but then you have to remember that we were never really supposed to be watching it in the first place. Sky made sure that their STBs locked out the SBS signal, as did some of the Freeview-approved boxes. It wasn't until I got fed up with the antiquated MySky box and got a much better one last year, that I discovered the joys of watching SBS.

If you are really determined to get SBS again, here is what you need to do:

1) Install an additional dish of 75 - 90cm size pointing at Optus C1 satellite @ 156 degrees East (or use a dual-throat LNB with a single dish of that size so Freeview reception is maintained)

2) Get hold of an Aussie set-top box with Aurora smartcard

Also keep in mind that the services on Optus C1:

3) Don't have HD

4) Don't have 16:9 Aspect Ratio (only 4:3)

5) Are scheduled to disappear in 18 months max. when VAST is implemented.

My opinion is that it's better to spend the money on upgrading your broadband connection and download the shows you want from the SBS website. I have recently done this, and can now watch streaming video @ 1000kbps from the SBS website. With this level of quality available, it's really hard to tell that you're not watching via the satellite, albeit only in SD quality, rather than HD. However, not all of the material broadcast on SBS HD was actually HD anyway -- a lot was just SD upscaled.

There is a new service being launched tomorrow from a local company which may help in this regard:

http://www.fyx.co.nz/

It looks like it will finally be possible to access TV programmes from offshore websites without resorting to offshore providers as I have had to do so far.
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The FYX service has now been launched:

http://www.fyx.co.nz/

For those of you on wired (ADSL) broadband, this could be a great option to get your TV programmes from offshore via a local provider.
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GrantK;421902 wrote: The FYX service has now been launched:

http://www.fyx.co.nz/

For those of you on wired (ADSL) broadband, this could be a great option to get your TV programmes from offshore via a local provider.
Is their streaming service able to be 'piggy-backed' onto an existing (wireless) broadband service?

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Organix;421938 wrote: Is their streaming service able to be 'piggy-backed' onto an existing (wireless) broadband service?
Yeah, I wondered the same for obvious reasons...

Apparently not. You are best to stick with a VPN, then if a particular provider stops being able to deliver the goods, you can easily switch.
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GrantK;421940 wrote: Yeah, I wondered the same for obvious reasons...

Apparently not. You are best to stick with a VPN, then if a particular provider stops being able to deliver the goods, you can easily switch.
Bugger [:(!] Our ISP hosts our website and we host one of their AP sites on our property so I can't see us changing. Besides, wireless is the only option here (only 10km from New Plymouth [:0]) due to the crappy state of Telescum's cable network.

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Organix;421944 wrote: Bugger [:(!] Our ISP hosts our website and we host one of their AP sites on our property so I can't see us changing. Besides, wireless is the only option here (only 10km from New Plymouth [:0]) due to the crappy state of Telescum's cable network.
You and me both and we are only 7km from a DSL-equipped roadside cabinet!

Never mind, wireless is now much faster than we would be getting from any wired connection around here. Using VoIP means we don't need a landline at all, and haven't since 2006.

When I said "change provider" I wasn't referring to your ISP. I use the Astrill VPN as I think I mentioned earlier in the thread. It costs NZ$8 per month on a 6-month term, and as I say, if Astrill stops delivering the goods, I can easily switch to another VPN provider that will. There are many to choose from :)
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GrantK;421902 wrote: The FYX service has now been launched:

http://www.fyx.co.nz/

For those of you on wired (ADSL) broadband, this could be a great option to get your TV programmes from offshore via a local provider.
And very quickly (and suspiciously) Fyx has withdrawn their "global mode" service [B)] More info on TVNZ7's Media7 tonight it would seem.

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Organix;423006 wrote: And very quickly (and suspiciously) Fyx has withdrawn their "global mode" service [B)] More info on TVNZ7's Media7 tonight it would seem.
Word is they received a "C&D" letter from the lawyer of a content producer. You would think they would have anticipated that before launching the service!

P.S. I couldn't find Media7 scheduled for broadcast tonight. First screening is on Thursday at 9:05pm as far as I can see, so have that set to record. Let me know if there's an earlier screening somewhere.
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GrantK;423011 wrote: Word is they received a "C&D" letter from the lawyer of a content producer. You would think they would have anticipated that before launching the service!

P.S. I couldn't find Media7 scheduled for broadcast tonight. First screening is on Thursday at 9:05pm as far as I can see, so have that set to record. Let me know if there's an earlier screening somewhere.
Oops, my mistake [:I] It is Thursday 9:05, by which time I will be outside NZ shores and watching progress on TVNZ7 from afar (via Facebook) - Hence the mistake due to the distraction of imminent travel :)

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Grant - I have found a station listed as $ SBS SE on Opus C1 Ku. The infor says somehting like 12407 V 30000. The bars are L62 and Q78. Message is No signal.

Found another one that is $ SBS TV (WA) which is on AsiaSat 4 Ku Numbers are 12454 V 7720 Bars are L49 (flicking betweeen 48 & 49) and Q5 No sigmal

Mean anything? Assuming the Opus C1 is the one aim for but just using an old Sky satelite dish.

I have the manual which is written in Chinese English. At least it makes you laugh reading it! One chapter is how to change satellite. I don't think so....
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DiDi;423051 wrote: Grant - I have found a station listed as $ SBS SE on Opus C1 Ku. The infor says somehting like 12407 V 30000. The bars are L62 and Q78. Message is No signal.
Unfortunately, these signals are encrypted DiDi, as are pretty much all the signals on Optus C1. Maybe you haven't caught up with the news, but the SBS broadcasts on Optus D1 were shut down permanently on May 4. To receive SBS now, you need the following:

- A larger dish than the standard Sky dish (at least 0.75 metre diameter is recommended)
- A receiver that will accept a smart card
- An Aurora smart card (which is only supposed to be used in Australia)

As if that isn't enough, the SBS broadcasts on Optus C1 are only 4:3 (non-widescreen) and are due to be shut down in 18 months time at the latest. Personally, I wouldn't bother, as it's a lot of effort and expense to go to, just to get a poor quality service for 18 months at the most.

It's a real bummer, but I have found a way to watch the programmes I want via the SBS On Demand web pages. With our new much faster internet connection, this works really well, although it's not as convenient as setting a programme to record from the satellite.
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Thanks Grant. I think I had reached the same conclusion after doing a few Google searches and as I am in a rental, I have not plans to spend money on a system that my landlady won't pay for.

There are NO houses that I would want to pay a dollar for in this area having lived a life and knowing what is important - dah - sun but the young ones and the investers out of Auckland are in nutsville at the moment and paying way too much for rubbish. Guess the latter don't give a flying but that is not me and I am now going to sit back even longer and wait for the crash as pessimist me believes that it is only a matter of time.

I can live with the stations I get at the moment but thanks for looking into it for me.
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